Brasuca
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Sold Seats X Unsold Seats

Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:12 am

Hi all... I need some explanation for what the topic suggests: In one flight, how many seats would the airline require for paying the flight itself? I mean... payment compensation of the fuel used in it, airport taxes due to this flight, snacks, food, drinks.. Furthermore they must pay salaries, publicity, maintenance, sometimes leasing etc etc etc... It looks like they would have to fill very nearly all their seats in the long run to make it profitable yields in their balance accounts.
A friend of mine once told me that it's necessary for a 733 to have about 60 seats sold out of 120 just for paying the fuel.. Can it be true?
What's the occupied seat's average number that an airline needs for launching a route?
Any aircraft can be used as an example.

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RE: Sold Seats X Unsold Seats

Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:38 am

Well if the 737 has 19,000 lbs of fuel on it that is 2,375 gallons, at lets say .80 a gallon thats about $1,900 just for the fuel. if the ticket costs $200.00 per person you would need to sell 10 tickets at $200 just to cover the fuel alone. The taxes , salaries, hourly rates, maintinance, and other costs fluxuate so its hard to really say how many $200 tickets are needed to be sold to pay for the cost of the flight. Remember this, not all tickets sold are of the $200 varaity, some are free, some are $400 or more, some are discounted with vouchers so someone might have a $30 ticket after cashing in the vouchers. Its really a detailed issue but the basic answer would be 60%or higher capacity should take care of a plane that size and everything else involved. Larger planes means more must be sold and so on.
 
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RE: Sold Seats X Unsold Seats

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:33 pm

I don't have an exact figure, but I have read from several sources that the profit margin for airlines is extremely small. This means that the "break even" number of seats that have to be sold on average are pretty high.
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RE: Sold Seats X Unsold Seats

Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:55 pm

OK, u guys call yourselves aviation buffs when yer not familiar with the terms Break-Even-Load-Factor, Available Air-Seat-Mile, Cost-Per-Seat-Mile etc? Shame - shame - shame.

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