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Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:36 pm

Hi there guys and girls,

Me and a buddy are flying LHR-LAX on a B744 and LAX-LHR on a A343 with VS.  Smile

I am just wandering how you all found the A340-300?

Many thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions,

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:40 pm

I've never flown the A340-300 with VS, but I have flown the A340-300 twice with CI.

I like the aircraft. Its quiet and comfortable. Its definitely a different experience from the 747-400. I can't really describe the feeling.

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:44 pm

I have been flying SAS A340-300 several times over the Atlantic. And I find them very nice. Its also great that you get your own PTV. But I don't know if every airline that uses A340-300 has PTV. But I think they do..

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:07 pm

I LOVE the A343.Personally I find it a very nice aircraft...confortable,very quiet
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:09 pm

But I'm not sure if every airline that uses A340-300 has PTV.

No, LH for instance doesn't

I second the most of the statements here. The A340-300 is, in my opinion, the quietest and smoothest aircraft I have ever flown. The 4 Engine construction seems to be ideal to "distribute noise"
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:03 pm


Hi!

I flew the A340-313X, HB-JMC last December from LAX to ZRH with SWISS. The plane was brand new, about 2 months old, and I was quite curious to see how it was. Before that I flew the 747 series 100, 200 and 400, the 767-200 and 300, the DC-10-10, the MD11 and the L1011, so it was my first try on the european long-haul jet. First thing I notice was the arrangement, 2-4-2 is quite nice for a long flight, specially if you travel with wife and kids ( we have 2 ) so one of the adults can always be with one kids and we don't need to bother the other passenger if it's a 3 seat row! The plane is tough a little cramped, compared with the 747 and the MD11. SWISS had PTV's on their 340's so it was very convenient, they use a small personal comand that you can choose what you want to see. About the flight itself, the first unique feature was the front camera by the nosewheel, you can see ahead of you and that was dramatic when we took of from LAX, awesome! The take-off is very smooth but it looks quite weak, compared for example with the 747 or specially with the MD11 ( that plane has a huge amount of power on take-off!!! ), but at the end the plane lifts very generously. The attitude during the flight is quite steady and strong. On landing and because it has 4 engines in the wing and that's a huge wing the approach and final touch was very smooth and very nice, for example the MD11 because it has an engine in the tail punish the attitude of the plane on landings. So overall I like the A340-300, it's an uneventfull airplane with good confort on long flights like the one we had, 11:15 minutes. But if you want a wild ride the MD11 is the plane!!!
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:20 pm

The A343 has become my favorite A/C since I've been on a CX A343 last october from AMS to HKG. Quiet, comfortable, smooth....it's one of the best aircraft I've ever been on, and can't wait to be back on one of those beauties in august, from HKG to AMS Big grin
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:40 pm

Great Airplane!

I spent hundreds of hours on the jumspeat of VS A340's back in my teenage years and can honestly say there is not another aircraft I prefer over it, the 747 feels a bit more spacious but unless you're seriously claustrophobic I doubt it'll matter much to most people.

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:55 pm

I have been flown with an A343 of LH from FRA to JFK. I am a frequent flyer but this was my first trip with this type. I had the luck to travel in business class and I was impressed about the seats and the very good service. I liked the atmosphere on that plane. It is convenient and pleasant.

But my return flight was with B744 of LH from YYZ to FRA in business class again. For first time as well. And so I could not shut my mouth about this huge bird. My wife and me had a place in the second row on the left side and in our eyes it was still more convenient and quiet than in the A343.

Nonetheless, I like it all and I think, each of them have advantages and disadvantages. At the end of the day it is a query of individual taste.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:14 pm

Flown VS, CX and SQ 343. The plane is the quietest I have flown, much better than the whine you get from the 777. Seating 2-4-2 is also good point. Problem with VS is the entertainment system is getting rather old, and I don't know if they will upgrade- small screens, hand controls stick etc.
 
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:18 pm

Haven't flown VS' 343s, but have flown two of UL's. I like the aircraft very much: it's comfortable, quiet and generally just right. Its slow climb was also quite exciting. I thoroughly enjoyed UL's seemingly very good IFE.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:02 pm

Has it taken off yet?  Wink/being sarcastic

Its cabin noise is extremely quiet, but no fun on take off and climb...
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:17 pm

Three words can summarise my, admittedly limited, A340 experience - quiet, comfortable and smooth. I'd love to fly one again soon.

I'm sure ConcordBoy will be along shortly to echo those sentiments  Big grin
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:22 pm

I flew AF's 343 on DEL, YUL and SEL routes (and some other destinations as well)...man that aircraft is quiet ! On 13 hour + legs like the SEL flights (when they could not overfly North Korea) it translates in a huge difference in terms of passenger comfort; now AF flies 772's to ICN.
While the 772 is a great aircraft, it unfortunately is noisier, which means I am much more tired upon my arrival in Seoul than in the days of the 343  Sad

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:28 pm

Flown on both VS 744 and A343 and also A346. As mentioned above the entertainment system on the A343 is getting on abit but still better than many airlines. You might get lucky on the 744 with the new V:Port entertainment system and you will be spoilt when flying back on the A343 after the 744 experience. The A343 is a quiet aircraft and if you want more legroom try and avoid seats A,D,G,K. These seats have a black box which control the entertainment system under the seat hence it will restrict your leg movement. You can find more information at http://www.virginflyer.com.

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:43 pm

Sorry to disagree with most of you, but I just flew SAS, SEA-CPH on one of their 340's and was very disappointed. The seats in coach appeared to be narrower than usual, with less pitch. Just a shitty miserable 10 hour flight. I spoke to an SAS ticket rep at ARN yesterday and she admitted that they've gotten complaints regarding those planes. It may very well be the quietest and freshest plane I've ever been on, but that matters very little when the comfort is so poor.

Doing CPH-ORD tomorrow, can't wait...

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:47 pm

Even though I haven't flown on VS's A343, I have flown a number of times on MS's A342 on short flights (CAI-JED-CAI) and long haul flights (CAI-JNB-CAI). I have to say the aircraft is very comfortable and quite. People usually slag off the A340 for the their take-off performance but it does not in anyway effect the flying experience. Having flown on the 763, 742 and 744, I have to say the A340 was the quitest and most enjoyable. They only other aircraft I feel has the edge is the 772.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:39 am

My experiences with IB's A340-300's have been pretty positive....as everyone has stated...quiet and smooth. Yes take offs are a pretty slow climb....but in a way its nice...you get an overview of the city which is kind of cool. I think my only complaint is(and i dont know if it is true with other airline A340-300's) is the layout of the audio programming/volume/overhead light/flight attendant call buttons. It seems to me that a lot of people get confused by the buttons and instead of hitting the overhead light button...they tend to hit the flight attendant call button by accident prompting a lot of "noise effects" (you hear the flight attending "ding" quite loud). I tends to get annoying.

Other than that...I am looking forward to flying on the IB A340-600 this upcoming Monday...I cant wait to see how that airplane handles!!
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:44 am

The aircraft is definitely a lot quieter than any other aircraft I have flown. Takeoff is fun, it's powerful but you seem to spend forever on the runway which is great then rotation is smooth and you don't get the sinking feeling you get on other aircraft, you also don't think you are about to drop out of the sky when the engine power comes back (or is that just me?). Landing is smooth. Truly a great aircraft IMO.

Have fun Big grin, I have a BA 744 to LAX instead of an A340...dammit!

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:38 am


I have traveled on the A343 with VS and AF. I like this aircraft because it is quiet and comfortable. If you're looking for the climb of the 757, this one doesn't have it. If you're looking for the size of the 747, this is not the aircraft. In terms of comfort though, I find it better than most.

It is forever on the runway during take off roll as LHR340 mentioned but you have a smooth take off, slow climb, seems to have a high attitude during initial climb, quiet during cruise, and a very soft touchdown.

All in all you will enjoy it, and especially your experience on VS.

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:44 am

Have flown LHR-LAX with VS on the A343.

the plane is very comfotable, and nicer in Y class than the 744 I think, thanks to the 2-4-2 layout.

to repeat the other posts - fingers crossed for an odyssey equipped plane, as this is the better IFE, and the planes are newer.

Arcadia eqipped A343's planes are still good though, us VS pax are just a bit spoilt in the IFE department I think!!

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:55 am

POS aircraft.

One rather fun thing about it is the sensation that you can jump off and push, during takeoff  Big grin
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:05 am

I had the pleasure of taking my first ride in a A340-300 with Turkish Airlines. The experience with the aircraft was a very stable and smooth ride the whole way. Great plane, good times.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:06 am

ANX4fishing

We are talking abt the aircraft itself and what you said basically varies from airline to airline. The aircraft ITSELF is indeed very quiet, smooth and comfy. The 2-4-2 config is good on long hauls.

I have flown SK's A343s i admit that pitch is a little limited but since I am not too wide I didn't really find any discomfort with their seat width. I have only travelled in Economy for intercontinental flights on one round trip in all my flying and that was on SK's A343 SEA-CPH vv and I am impressed. Wasn't too bad. They had good IFE and service. Coming from a person who mostly travels up front in C or F, I'd say SK's economy has impressed me and I'm sure many others will as well just that I never tried them.
 
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:21 am

flew SQ defunct Celestar CDG-SIN-CDG and it was an awesome experience.
smooth and quiet of course and the cabin is very nice, esp for 12 hours flight: 2-4-2 config which is handy since you have to bother only one person (considering you take the window  Laugh out loud ) but also the cabin seems to be perfectly sized: no feeling of wide avenue like in 747 or the stingy feeling in the 767 (2-3-2, one seat is missing!!!)
nevertheless after 12 hours my back was broken: felt a bit cramped, and I remember the seat in front of me reclined so much that I had to rotate the LCD PTV towards the ceiling if I wanted to watch something....but was it an SQ problem or an A343 problem, that I don't know...
I'll always remember the ultra cool take off from SIN: it took forever and I was asking to myself, "is it gonna make it? for godsake DO rotate!!"
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:13 am

I am sure you will find out for yourself being able to take both types.
I personally prefer the 744 as being a true wide body design with lots of thrust.
on the other if you prefer a less substantial and smaller plane with very slow climb perhaps you would prefer the Airbus A340-300. Soon to be phased out by VS!
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:21 am

..."I am just wandering how you all found the A340-300?".....

I was impressed actually. I was able to travel and walk my dog at the same time. I just held the leash out the window and the little guy was able to keep up  Big grin
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:23 am

I flew the A340-300 (EC-GLE & EC-GGS) on Iberia from ORD-MAD and MAD-ORD. I personally wasn't impressed, but that may be due to the fact the the service on IB is not as good when compared to the US carriers. Having just returned from a trip overseas on the 777, I prefer the Boeing product over the Airbus on longhaul. I would, however, love to try the A340-600 or A330 next trip to Europe.

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:32 pm

After flying 343s of OS (VIE-JNB-CPT and back as well as VIE-JNB and back on another occasion), LH (FRA-IAD, MUC-ORD) and SK (CPH-EWR) for a total of 10 flights (compared to 41 on 747s, 22 on 767s, 5 on 330s and 3 each on M11s and 777s) it is my preferred plane for long flights: as most have commented it is quiet, the flights are smooth and - depending on the airline - quite comfortable.

Concerning the slow takeoffs - true, it's less powerfull than a 747, 767 or M11, but as long as it gets me off the runway and to my destination, I personally really couldn't care less... and I don't mind the chance to do some last minute sightseeing from the air...  Big grin

About the point that the 340/330 has less headroom than the 777/747 - also true... just as true as the fact that this enables persons who are a bit smaller to also reach the overhead bins: and you'd have to be so seriously claustrophobic that you would only board any narrowbody after taking sedatives before the 330/340 cabin is even close to being a problem: as I've asked on other occasions - what are you going to do with the headroom? Juggle with the candy bars that you've got on your meal tray? Or try to climb over the seats in front of you?

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:51 pm

I flew with Air Canada last year on two of their 343s - SYD-YVR and YVR-YYZ. Had plenty of time to check out how the 343 flies. It was as everyone else has said - quiet and smooth all the way across the Pacific and then across Canada.

Prior to that, I flew on LH 342 from FRA-HKG in 2000. That was also a nice experience.

I personally like the A340 a lot.
 
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:25 am

MD11LuxuryLinr:

I gotta say....although I like the A340-300...your post was pretty damn funny!! LOL

To everyone that complains about the slow climb of the 340-400...I just want to get a better understanding of why that bothers you. I dont know....I dont think its a big deal...or a mark of whether an airplane is good or not. I just want to get a better idea of why this is of such great concern. Thanks  Smile
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:55 am

I can't wait to try out the 343 with my good friend J!!! WE will post a joint trip report when we get back i think!!! lol

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:01 am

The QUIETEST flight made for me was two years ago,in an IB's Business Class A343 between MAD and BOG.
It was quieter than even in a B-747 Buz. main deck.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:09 am

My 1st A340 flight was also on THY, about 6 years ago. TC-JDL if I recall. Extremely smooth and comfortable, quiet and gentle, an experience repeated on Virgin and LAN more recently. You could say, if you want to praise the A340, that even during take-off you are not "inconvenienced" in any way--by acceleration, rate of climb, whatever, you feel nothing--it's a powered glider, with a surprisingly long landing roll (since those CFMs are as effective at slowing the plane with reversers as they are at getting the plane airborne!). My favourite Airbus wide-body.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:33 pm

Hola!

I've flown the 340300 several times, long and short legs: Lan Chile SCL - MAD and SCL - EZE.

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It's true, those engines are so quiet, but I think is not a remarkable comfortable aircraft. It's weird; everytime I've fly it I feel a little bit sick when it turns... you know that feeling for 1 or 2 seconds (the same that sometimes happens on an elevator). I thought it was me, but no! I just flew for 10 hours the Lan 767 and nothing!. Other issue: I remember the central overhead compartments seems to be badly fitted; I don't know how to explain that: it shaked a lot during turbulence and taxiing!.

I remember once returning from MAD to SCL: 14 hours nonstop, 3 hours of those tied to the seat because of turbulence. I had bad luck and got the central seat of the last row... such a torture.

I think Virgin should fly it greatly.

Please, don't take me wrong, it's a very nice aircraft, Lan has a great rear galley set as a snack bar, and their IFE is grate, but I still prefer 767 for long haults. But I have a confession to make: I've never flown the 747... shame on me  Crying

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:53 pm

Don't know if it is my imagination but i found the A343 cabin quiet but the A346 even quieter.
 
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:52 am

Hey there!

I've flown on the A340-300 of LAN Chile from LAX-LIM in Business.

Very quiet birds i must say. I have to disagree that it isnt comfortable, I had an excellent 8 hours onboard... It was a smooth flight, although a slow climb rate.. I also disagree about LANs 767s being more comfortable. It was good too, but I still prefered the flight onboard the 340. Perhaps it was down to aircraft condition, but i call it as i see it.

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:15 am

I have flown Kuwait A343s. My experience is very uncomfortable. The aircraft slow climbing performance was very noticeable too. I think my flight was quite heavy because it ran for a long time before rotation on the runway. Over all I felt the cabin was quite small which kind of made me feel like I was in a can or something like that. Definitely the 777 and 747-400 has the lead as far as cabin space.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 5:39 am

Found it neither "more quiet and smooth" than, say, 777, nor "underpowered and slow". My only 343 flight, with LH, was utterly boring, but, to me, A340-300 (yes, -300, not -500 or -600!) is the nicest subsonic airliner ever built. Don't know if I would ever want to fly on one again (definitely never with LH) but would always like to see it - this flying machine looks great.
 
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:06 am

Arcano...
Really do you prefer to make a journey in a 767 than in an A343??? I don't agree with you in this point. (tal vez tengas un mal recuerdo por haber tenido que viajar en el asiento central de clase económica en un MAD-SCL especialmente si el vuelo iba lleno ese día)
In my personal opinion,when flight is more than 8 hours is better any 340 than any 767.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:39 am

I will have to differ from most of you.
the 2-3-2 seating on the 767 is more comfortable than the 2-4-2 seating on the A340-300.
Most of you never had to take off on a 15 hour flight in a A340-300 , that is when you Wish you had more thrust. It feels like it is barely gaining altitude and having a hard time staying aloft.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:46 pm

I'm just wondering what slow climbing has to do with passenger comfort. Anyone come up with a correlation? I really can't.

Most of you never had to take off on a 15 hour flight in a A340-300 , that is when you Wish you had more thrust. It feels like it is barely gaining altitude and having a hard time staying aloft.

That's one of the most preposterous things I've ever heard on this site. But then, it is your opinion...
 
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:55 pm

Yes, Buckfifty,
Have you tried it?
they really ought to acquire the 300e version as SAA is getting now or better yet upgrade to a 500 series.
perhaps you are used to 4 cylinder power as opposed to a V8 in PRC.
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:58 pm

Hi All:
Yes! I do prefer 767 rather than 340.

Anxebia: it's not only that last row, I've also been in window, aisle, front, rear, etc.
I haven't say the aircraft isn't comfortable. It is fantastic, specially Lan 340! but I had better flight on the 767 in terms of presure, movments, etc... weird noises and weard feelings on the 340. Also note I'm talking of a 767 with PTV's, VOD, IFE etc etc. If I had to choose to fly LAN 767 without those gadgets or LAN340, surley I'd pick the airbus!

I do think 340 is a very good airliner, and the more width and double coach cabin makes an important advantage over the 767... but yet I had better flights on that boeings (Lan and American). That's all I say

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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:04 pm

Yes, Buckfifty,
Have you tried it?


I fly one, actually.
 
Arcano
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:19 pm

BTW!

Due to geography, Chileans are used to flight long range... and I've never heard anyone complaining about slow or thrusted climbing  Nuts. Totally agree Buck50, It has nothing to do with passengers comfort...
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warren747sp
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:30 pm

Really, Buckfifty?
Which route to you fly out of PRC in a 340-300 which is about 15 hour flight?
I still think you are pretending to be a pilot given that we can not see your true identity.
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TK
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:30 pm

Yes Warren747sp, I have tried it- and I love it.
Your bias is both amusing and ridiculous.
 
buckfifty
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:37 pm

Really, Buckfifty?
Which route to you fly out of PRC in a 340-300 which is about 15 hour flight?
I still think you are pretending to be a pilot given that we can not see your true identity.


Duh. I really don't have anything to prove to you, especially to someone who claims to be a managing director, but writes like a 14 year old.

However, I will qualify by saying that CxFlyboy tries to convince me that his fleet is better than ours, because the 777 is a better aircraft. But I like the people in my fleet, and we have autotrim.  Big grin
 
regupilot
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RE: Experiences With The A340-300?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:39 pm

Saludos!

Even when being a super big fan of aviation, I wasn't a member of A.net by the time I flew the A340, and wasn't paying attentiion to most of its performance, besides, it was night time.. and I was flying with my mom and niece, so I was having some talking at most of the flight, but I did a very short hop from SDQ to SJU on an Iberia A343, and it was one of the best flight experiences I have had. The plane was the quietest I have been into, and I felt really comfortable. Have to say that it was about 60% full, so we I had plenty of seats to move to/from. Anyways, It was quick, and we got to the place faster than scheduled. One highlight is that it when the plane reached 10,000ft.. seems like the pilot pushed the throttle to the top, because we were pushed to our seats, and had the feeling the plane was moving faster. I was not the only one who felt it, but since It was my only A340 experience, I have no clue if its common.

Now, for Justin.. about 95% of the replies are positive, so you will have a nice journey!

NIce flying!
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