maiznblu_757
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Was The Starship A Failure?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:54 pm

And why would all these be going to the incinerator? It isnt that old.



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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:33 pm

This has been covered before but...


Business people were too conservative to buy this aircraft, so yes it was a failure.

Beech is buying the few out there back and destroying them because they have lost enough money and are not willing to deal with liability etc.
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:40 pm

The aircraft was also a pavement hog.

Compared with a cheaper and more conventional King Air, this Starship was expensive, a lousy performer, and unconventional.
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maiznblu_757
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:14 am

Are there any flying anymore?
 
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:03 am

Do a search.......You'll find this was well covered a few months ago, and it will answer many of your questions.
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:08 am

I think the last Starship was finally bought back by Raytheon. The Starship is no longer.

And by the way, those things were LOUD.
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:23 am

Were they unstable or unairworthy? Seems like a poor market wouldn't be the only factor contributing to its failure. I knew they weren't flying anymore, but I never knew why-if I get some feedback, it will be good to know.

If this has been talked about before, lets talk about it again right here.

Thanks for the replies ahead of time.

Edited: 10 minutes later, still no help. C'mon y'all, why did they go? By the way, I've seen some flying over my house before, right next to DFW. Haven't seen that though for about half a year at least.

[Edited 2004-03-27 03:37:21]
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Dazed767
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 11:34 am

Yes a few are still flying, I saw one earlier this week fly into MCO. Wish I would have known how 'rare' they were.

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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:34 pm

I read an article about the Starship's retirement, and it didn't really make sense to me. It seems such a waste to retire and destroy an entire fleet of such a unique and pioneering aircraft. I've only ever seen one up close. It came into PRC about 4 years ago. Seen a few from across the field at several airports. I'll miss it. It was always the highlight of any ramp it sat on.
 
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RE: Was The Starship A Failure?

Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:20 pm

They were too heavy. And it was the FAA's fault, not Beech's. The FAA ruined the aircraft.

The Piaggio P-180 (developed a few years later) was much faster (395 kts max vs 330 or so for the Starship), had a much bigger cabin, and had a better payload. It was also built out of totally conventional aluminum (in a new way, though, to get that smooth composite-looking skin).

It makes sense for Raytheon to get rid of them, though. Then they don't have to support them.

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