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Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:17 am

What memories do you guys (probably Canadians and British) have of the airline? For me, it was having one of the nicest liveries of the time (early 1990's) as well as the airline that would take me across the Pond annually.

-YVRtoYYZ

PS-Since Wardair was bought by Canadian, who was then bought by Air Canada, does that mean that AC has the rights to the name, etc?
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:04 am

I had my first flight ever on them PIK-YYZ summer '89 or '90. I think it was a DC10, as I was too young to remember the flight, so I'm just going by what I've been told.
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:37 am

Only ever flew a Wardair aircraft once, and this was after the merger with CP in 1990. I was on a routing of HNL-YVR-YYZ-YQG with my parents on the way back from New Zealand. The Wardair aircraft was an Airbus A310 on the YVR-YYZ sector. Although I was young at the time I remember the aircraft seemed very modern, the first time I had seen drop-down screens for the IFE. The peanuts even still had the Wardair logo on it although the flight was scheduled as CP.
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:57 am

My first flight ever was on a WD 707 in 1970 at the age of 5 YYZ-LGW. Charter flight. At that time, charter flights were not technically allowed althogh tour groups were allowed. So my parents had to join a travel club called the "Quo Vadis" club here in YYZ to book the seats as part of a group. Incredible eh?

I flew WD a few times, not alot. The WD 707's were based nominally in YYZ although rarely seen since they only had 2 and were used on charters from many Cdn cities. The sole WD 721 was even rarer. WD added its own new 741 in 1973 and a 2nd used 741 in 1975. Bigger expansion came in 78/79 when 2 new GE 742's and 2 new D10's were added. A 3rd D10 joined the fleet soon after. The 707/721 fleet were disposed of in the 70's. 3 used South African A300's were added in 1986 mainly for YYZ-YVR and FLA charters. The first A310 was added in 1987. The 12-order A310 addition was what ultimately killed WD....it was far too heavy a financial burden. M88's and F100's were ordered but never delivered.






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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:06 pm

my parents had to join a travel club called the "Quo Vadis" club here in YYZ to book the seats as part of a group. Incredible eh?

I remember those phony "clubs" you had to join, from my first Wardair flight in 1972 - a 707 flight, YYZ-MAN-LGW and return. Also, around that time, or maybe even earlier, they came out with a rule that tourist class passengers couldn't be served full meals - just sandwiches. This resulted in competing airlines devising more and more elaborate "sandwiches" until you could hardly tell them from a regular entree. The rule didn't last too long - I don't even remember what the reason for it was.

My last Wardair flight was to TPA in 1986. We were served a champagne breakfast on that flight - which was my first Airbus flight. I thought it was an A310 - but if they didn't enter Wardair service until 1987 it must have been an A300.
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:26 pm

The meals being served on china with metal cutlery comes to mind. The staff busted their backsides to make you feel welcome.

I know it sounds silly but what I remember most was they had the greatest Italian salad dressing. I've never been able to find it since.

I flew Wardair numerous times and the only time I had " a problem" was when I was flying home from Florida and we actually flew on a McCullough Airlines(ways) 707.

For those of us old enough to have flown them, we still compare today's carriers to them, what bigger compliment can be paid to Max Ward's airline.

Jeff
 
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Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:02 pm

These three sum up an entire era of spotting at LGW for me:


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Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:10 pm

When I was a kid, my father would take me to CK's restaurant at Tampa Airport for a treat some Friday evenings. It is a revolving restaurant on top of the Airport Marriott, and is connected directly to the landside terminal. Back in the days when Wardair served Tampa, the parking garage wasn't as high as it is now, and you could literally see all of the airsides radiating out from the central landside building. I just loved eating the early bird special (roast duck), and looking out at all of the planes (Eastern, National, Piedmont, TWA, PanAm, and Braniff to name a few that aren't around any more)

In the evening, the biggest and most exciting plane for me to spot was the Wardair 747 from Toronto YYZ. How I dreamed of getting on one of those mighty birds!

After dinner one evening, we went down to the ticket counters and I gathered up the latest timetables for my collection. I begged my dad to take me out to airside D where the Wardair plane was parked, and he agreed, even though it was getting late.

We rode the train out to the airside (in those days, you didn't need a ticket to get through security), and I excitedly headed right for the gate.

My father went right up to the gate agent and told her what an airplane freak I was and how I had always dreamed of being on a 747. He asked if they would take me on to show me around, and to our surprise, she said yes!

The visit was brief. I still remember the walk out to the end of the jetway and entering the front cabin. It was so awesome how the forward cabin tapered at the nose! I remember there weren't any first class seats-all economy-and each seat had a different color of the rainbow. Looking towards the back of the plane, it seemed as if it went on forever! Although I wanted to go upstairs, they wouldn't let me because it was being cleaned. However, thanks to my dad, my first time on a 747 was with Wardair! I never flew on Wardair, but I must say that the crew was very nice to allow a non-passenger on the plane!

About 8 years later, I finally got a chance to "ride" on a 747 from IAH to LGW (CO-again thanks to my father's frequent flyer miles). When I walked on the plane, the memories of what my dad and Wardair did for me came back, and I still feel a bit of nostalgia every time I get on the mighty Boeing.

I miss those days at TPA with my dad. And I wish that TPA still had 747 service. The biggest we get these days is a BA 777 from LGW and Fedex DC-10s to MEM.

So, thanks to my father and Wardair Canada for helping to make a boy's dream come true!


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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:06 pm

I remember it was my First 747 flight, I flew that plane home from MCO to YYZ back in the late 80's. I can remember the China they served us, and the nice meals they had. Wardair was a great airline. I sure wish they were still around today.
 
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Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:06 am

Thanks, TPA, for a great story  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:54 am

I never flew Wardair sadly, but I believe their inflight service was excellent for a charter airline.

I remember Wardair as being the only airline to regularly send Boeing 747s to my local airport, Manchester (UK). As a child, I used to walk out onto the pier and watch them taxi past and take off. It was almost as if you could reach out and touch them! Sadly, those days are gone.  Crying


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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:05 am

I was too young to remember any distinct stories about WD, but I would fly them annually from YVR-GLA (actually Prestwick) with stops in Halifax, Toronto or Calgary for fuel. I do remember Wardair being my favorite airline as a young boy and especially liked seeing the A310 in their livery. Still have some memorabilia of Wardair (forks, knives and plastic and dye-cast model planes). To this day, my Dad still compares many airlines to Wardair and the empeciable service they offered.

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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:49 pm

WD used to serve HNL with 747s and DC-10s. There was one incident where a WD 747 made an approach for Rwy 26 (now 26R) over Honolulu, instead of off-shore. I remember seeing the 747 flying past where I used to live in metro Honolulu. Sort of like the CI incident a couple of years ago. I must have been at about 2,000 feet, but it looked a lot closer.

In fact, at one time, WD, PW, and CP all served HNL at the same time. AC didn't start until much later. The heaviest traffic is during the winter, where flights to/from Hawaii are doubled to escape the cold of the "Great White North".
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:11 am

PW served HNL? With the 707?

I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:24 am

This may be somewhat off topic, but some of the Wardair aircraft still fly, if I am not mistaken. As Wardair was bought out by Canadian Airlines International, I assume that they took all of the Wardair aircraft. Well, I know that the Canadian Government bought 5 A310-300's from Canadian Airlines International back in the mid eighties. I remember hearing on the radio that the price tag was 150 million for the 5 aircraft. They still fly today as the dark grey Canadian military airbusses, numbered 001 through to 005, as well as the one designated for the Prime Minister.
 
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RE: Wardair...What Memories Do You Have?

Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:33 pm

I wish I paid closer attention when I worked part time for Hudson General back in '88/'89. Wardair was perhaps their biggest contract at YYZ. I have some recollection of working on the WD A300s and B747s. I also recall a time in the Wardair hanger on Convair Dr. seeing what might have been an A300 or A310 and the interior was stripped. I now suppose it was undergoing a major check/reconfiguration. Might have been a 'C' check? The ride over to the hanger was in a towed B747. At one point I was up in the flight deck and sat in the right seat while one of the maintainance technicians sat in the left seat. He allowed me to do a radar check - Simply push a button and make sure the display looked good. COOL!!! I'm sure there was more to testing the radar than what I did, but, that was good enough for me.
I miss the times I spent on the roof of YYZ's terminal 1... Observing the operations down below - CP; Pacific Western; Nordair... Wardair. I wish I paid closer attention back in those days.
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