hugojimenez
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Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:22 am

I'm trying to find out when AA made its last change of livery for the actual one of course, but I simply can't.

Can anybody tell me about that information?
 
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:56 am

You mean this one???


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hugojimenez
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:58 am

No Sir.

I mean American Airlines.

Thanks.
 
ssides
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:59 am

Judging from photos in the A.net database, it looks like the current livery debuted in 1970. Here is the earliest photo in the database that carries the current livery:


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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:00 am

Sorry, that was cheeky! 1975, if you're thinking of the "real" AA.  Yeah sure

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n844aa
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:10 am

Going along with what Ssides said, I believe the "new" livery was introduced in 1969. I have a source with that information somewhere at home, and I'll post later if I can't find an internet source that corroborates that date.

It's been said a thousand times, but it's remarkable how up-to-date American's corporate identity remains to this day. How many other logos from the late sixties do you see still in use? And those still around are generally dated -- though not AA's.
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:25 am

N844AA:

AZ's is also from the sixties--older than AA's in fact. It's not my favourite, but somehow (when clean) it seems to suit anything from the DC-8 to 777. In the case of AA, theirs' is a colour scheme which any aircraft will grow out of--it's a polished bare metal finish with three stripes. I think it's the simplicity that allowed it to work from the 707 to the 777 (AA is mostly comprised of metallic Boeings instead of composite Airbuses), but as has been said in other forums, the A300 proved more of a headache. The Boeings too are starting to look a little funny due to increased use of composites, but as a corporate image, AA is pretty timeless.

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dutchjet
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:49 am

Wasnt the current AA livery introduced in 1970, at the same time that AA was putting the 747-100 into service? I do not remember ever seeing an AA 747 in the old "lightening-bolt" scheme.
 
dtwclipper
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:07 am

A/C N7528A a Boeing 720B introduced the new or current color scheme in 1968!
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BlackBox
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:24 am

In my mind, AA's livery has actually improved with age. It's amazing that it was introduced in the late 60s, and the changes in the commercial aviation world this livery has witnessed. It is the Dick Clark of liveries.

Awaiting takeoff at ORD on a recent flight, I observed a UA 777 and a AA 777 next to each other. I was struck at how much better I thought the AA 77 looked - clean lines enhancing, not burying, the 777's imposing size and beauty. The UA 777, by contrast, seemed smaller and "weighed down" by all the dark grey paint. It was the difference between a natural beauty and an atrractive girl that wears too much makeup.
 
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:46 am

Here's one interesting note. When the new livery was being designed, the tail had only the letters "AA". There was no eagle. Employees were quite angry about the lack of the eagle, which had been included in all prior liveries and logos. So, they got passengers to write management to complain.

So, when the first aircraft was rolled out with the new livery, there was an eagle on the tail.
 
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:15 am

Ckfred,

That is incorrect, the above mentioned a/c, a Boeing 720 was rolled out without the eagle in 1968 when the new scheme appeared.
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iflyatldl
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:16 am

AA's current livery did indeed debut in 1970. It started with the delivery of the 747 and then 707 and so forth.  Big grin
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:19 am

Iflyatldl,

It arrived in 1968. See Great Airliners Series, Volume Seven. Shows two pics of the aircraft, one in 1968 as the roll out A/C as mentioned above and another in 1969.

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Pronto
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:29 am

I think this livery looks better now as the "polished metal" look has vastly improved. I don't know about some of you, but I think the "polished metal" looks great! Just think of other liveries with the same look, either now or in the past, and you might like it!
Examples:
US Air
Piedmont 737s
JAT
Laker Bahamas
Western(last c/s)
 
iflyatldl
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:42 am

Dtwclipper: I will have to check that out! Makes for a good excuse to go to Borders! Appreciate it! Big grin
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:58 am

Iflyatldl,

No problem!

Pages 25 & 26. Let me know if you find anything good.

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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:13 am

"Here's one interesting note. When the new livery was being designed, the tail had only the letters "AA". There was no eagle."

That "original" design also had no white cheatline, just the blue and red lines.
 
iflyatldl
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:17 am

Wish someone had a source to download that pic.  Sad
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airways6max
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:19 am

American Airlines adopted its current livery in April 1969.
 
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:34 am

1970 sounds about right. I've seen drawings in a book of the final concept of the DC-10. It was shown in the 'old' American Airlines 'Lightenbolt' livery.
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hugojimenez
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:25 pm

"American Airlines adopted its current livery in April 1969"

Airways6max

Incredible. That means that next month AA will "celebrate" 35 years using the same livery?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks everybody for the information!

I think this is going to be part of the Guinness Records...
 
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RE: Last AA Livery Change

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:20 pm

Air India's is old too. And LOT's. At least 30. Does anyone know when they were introduced?

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