hailstone
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Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:23 am

the AF webpage states that they have started installing the new business class seats.

anybody have more info as to how many 777 and 340 are already equipped with these ?
 
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:02 am

This has already been discussed in other threads. Please do a search using key words like Air France, new, cabins, business class etc.

There are only 2 acutally in service: 1 A340 on the CDG-EWR-CDG route
and 1 A330 on the CDG-PHL-CDG route (it was doing BKO).

The latest 330 F-GZCN was delivered yesterday, I think, and is also fitted with the new cabins.
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:05 am

The 14th A332 (F-GZCN) has just joined the fleet and is equipped with the new seats configuration.

The new B773ER will join the fleet in April and will start operating AF006/007 CDG-JFK-JFK from May 10th to June 13th. Then hey it will operate the CDG-NRT route (AF276/275 & AF278/277).
All the new B773ER will be of course fitted with the new seats.

No B772ER or B744 have been reconfigured yet, as the priority is given to the A343 and A332.

For more informations concerning the new seats check :

http://www.airfrance.com/corporate


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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:28 am

Hailstone,

Here is one link with some more info on the new seats / a/c configurations:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1478383/



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joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:35 am

the new biz class is available on newark, philadelphia and bamako flights only for the moment
 
Horus
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:40 am

FLYSSC

Do the 'older' A332s have these new Business class seats, or will they be refitted at a later date?
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joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:50 am

there is only a handfull of the 332's and 340's that have been refitted

all the 340's and 330's will be 2 class only in the future
 
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:51 am

Only 2 A332, including the 14th aircraft received yesturday, are fitted with the new Business class. These a/c are flying to BKO and now PHL. The other 12 a/c will be modified, along with the A343, B744, B772ER, during the next months. All the fleet is said to be modified by the end of 2005/Early 2006.
 
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:56 am

How will they modify 12 A332s over the next few month without loosing alot of flying hours while they are on the ground being upgraded. Shouldn't they wait until the next major overhaul, when the aircraft are being maintained - sort of hit two birds with one stone.
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joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:00 am

you got a point there horus!

but thats not my poblem right???

i want the new seats! they have saved tons of money for almost 10 years by not installing any new seats...

their old business is so worn out that the shape of the cushion of your seat is pre-shaped. it has been like that since a long time already.

i saw that too for their first class

[Edited 2004-03-31 20:02:02]
 
Horus
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:06 am

That's true Joleb!
Customers should always come first Big grin
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BGR1962
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:12 am

"This has already been discussed in other threads. Please do a search using key words like Air France, new, cabins, business class etc."

If you don't like reading the same subject matter again, here's an idea DON'T READ IT. What are you the thread police? Some of us don't live on airliners and on occasion might like a fresh perspective anyway.


 
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:24 am

Horus,

Air France has to reconfigure 73 Long-Haul a/c : 12 A332, 21 A343, 25 B772ER, and 15 B744.
Grounding an a/c only for the reconfiguration is out of question. In the same time, this reconfiguration can't take too long and can't be done on 3 or 4 years ! and the delay given by AF (end 2005/2006) is already quite long, but the a/c will be reconfigured during maintenance checks, so that no flight will have to be cancelled because no aircraft is available.

That's why also the priority is given to the A343 & A332 as these a/c type will receive the new concept of 2 classes : Business/Class and use on specific markets. Then the B744 (by next autumn) will be fitted with the new seats (and 2 classes also) and used on the "Sun/leisure destinations" market, when the B773ER will join the fleet and replace them on the "traditional" destinations (LAX, NRT, JFK etc... )
 
Horus
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:28 am

When are the A332s expected to undergo their first major overhaul/maintenance?
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avi8tir
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:29 am

Its about time for AF! The only time Ive flown AF was JFK - CDG on a 777. It was a DL codeshare in which I had just flown LAX - JFK on a DL 763 in BizE. I was amazed at how much more comfortable the BizE seats were.
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:31 am

"This has already been discussed in other threads. Please do a search using key words like Air France, new, cabins, business class etc."

If you don't like reading the same subject matter again, here's an idea DON'T READ IT. What are you the thread police? Some of us don't live on airliners and on occasion might like a fresh perspective anyway.


I couldn´t agree more with you, BGR1962.

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It would be interesting to hear of someone who has tried AF´s and LH´s new C-Class seat anytime soon.

Daniel
 
joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:40 am

yes i ve been asking that question too to be honest
who flew in it already?
 
joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:08 am

did ANYBODY FLEW IN the new BIz class of AF?
 
joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:31 am

perhaps nobody has on airliners.net?
 
Horus
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:34 am

I guess so, since it is still pretty new
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joleb
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RE: Air France - Roll-Out Of New Business Class Seats

Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:41 pm

com eon there must be somebody with stories???/

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