With fear of opening up a can of words, I wonder if some of the more knowledgable people could clear up the situation or have any info about additional CRJ's for NW
Lately, from both PCL and XJ
crews there have been a lot of rumors going around about NW
obtaining additional financing and converting some of their options into firm orders for additional CRJ's. Now, the question being raised is, of course, will they go to Pinnacle, or to Mesaba.
First here at the facts that we all know:
has a firm order for 129 CRJ aircraft. All 129 have been allocated to Pinnacle. Currently there are about 90 CRJ's that have been delivered. The balance of the order will be filled by year-end 2004 / early 2005, dependent upon the accelerated delivery schedule.
has options for an additional 175 CRJ's
- The Jet Agreement for the Arvos with Mesaba runs through May 1, 2007 at which time it can be extended or terminated.
- The Saab Agreement for the Saabs with Mesaba runs through June 30, 2007 at which time it can be extended or terminated.
- The A model Saabs will be gone this year, and the garden variety bastard child B models from a variety of sources will be gone in 2005, leaving XJ
with a fleet of approximately 50 of the newest Saabs on long term lease.
- Pinnacle pilot contracts are up in Spring 2005, and thus could set worth the NW
whipsaw tactic as they love to do with their Airlink providers at contract time.
Thus, I guess there is more questions than answers at this time. NW
is quickly burning through the CRJ order, if they are going to continue deliveries beyond early '05, they will have to make a decision soon. Now, there is no way they are going to convert all of those options at this time, but perhaps take on an additional 10-20? I guess it depends. Now, just exactly how many 44-seat CRJ's does NW
need in the first place, as they need somewhere to fly them too. Parking for RJ
's is at a premium at DTW
these days, at least for the next two years until the addition on B and rebuild of C is complete. Heck, on occasion now, I've seen CRJ's parked at A concourse.
(Lets not turn this thread into where these all end up going, and you all know what I mean)
And no, don't reply with some BS
about how NW
is going to convert all those options for CRJ's into the Q400 that furloughed mainline pilots will fly under Horizon on routes like DTW
-FNT, etc, etc, etc.
Or how NW
is going to dump the CRJ fleet since they are unhappy with its climb performance and instead buy all ERJ's instead.
Have at it.