SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:53 pm

$170.20 on WN and HP.

Seems a might exspensive for a 1 hour flight, I remember just 2 years ago this route was less then 90 RT.

It would be nice to have more then 2 choices between SAN and PHX. I flew to ORD from SAN last month for less money.

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RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Fri Apr 02, 2004 9:42 pm

Well the thing is, you have stale competition on that route. Those carriers' fares will run hand in hand on that route to stay competitive. So if you get something to drive either of their prices down, the other one will more than likely follow.
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RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:42 am

where did you come up with $170? I just checked for 2 weeks from now and it is $78 r/t (before taxes... works out to about $96). I used to fly this route almost weekly for about 6 months last year. The most I think I ever paid was $136

RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Sat Apr 03, 2004 7:26 am

Av8rPHX: HP and WN's website. Its just the days I wanted to go that are high. Its not urgent I wanted to go to an Alaska Airlines Rez center interview but if i'll drive if I go.
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RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Sat Apr 03, 2004 9:20 am

$85 each way including taxes if you're booking less than 2 weeks in advance or are inflexible in the days/times you're willing to travel is far from expensive on that route. Try looking at the price on BFL-PHX (monopoly route for HP), ORD-DSM (three airlines compete between Des Moines and Chicago), or PVD-PHL (before May 9). At the typical reimbursement rate for travel by car (32 cents/mile; covers gas, amortized maintenance, wear-and-tear, insurance, depreciation on the vehicle), it's still cheaper to fly SAN-PHX at $85 each way.

RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:18 am

Yes a 45 to 50 minute flight for 170 dollars 15 days in advance at the time I got the quote is exspensive in my opinion.

Its about 50% cheaper to drive so that is what I am doing, my car can make it there on 1 tank so 22 bucks there and 1 tank back 22 plus maybe 10 bucks for the drive around PHX. Total cost 54 bucks.

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RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:09 pm

Yep, but don't forget to amortize the mileage on your car; let's say it cost you $15,000 new and you expect to get 150,000 miles out of it -- that works out to $0.10/mile. For a 710-mile round-trip (according to Mapquest), that's $71.00 of the cost of ownership of your car. Throw in another $5 towards your next oil change (about $20 every 3,000 miles), about $3 in wear on your tires, and you're up to $133.

And I just priced a ticket for 15 days from now (departing SAN at 0900 and returning from PHX at 1655 on 17-APR) for $108.20.
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RE: SAN-PHX Might Exspensive

Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:47 pm

Like someone mentioned, PHL-PVD before May 9 has a walk up fare of $932 RT for a trip of similar length.

And oh by the way if you have priced fuel in AZ and CA lately...unless you drive something like a Ford focus....the gas will get you. As a result the typical mileage reimbursement for travel (if you have an expense acct and use govt figures) is 37 1/2 centsa mile.

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