yak42
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Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:11 am

Here is this picture of a Pan Am A300B4-200 in Frankfurt, I was wondering if they operated A300B4s to Europe as this suggests and if so did they have to refuel somewhere between the USA and Europe.

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dtwclipper
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:26 am

These were used for service within Europe and the middle-east.
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:39 am

Never flew them when I was a PanAmigo...
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Some were operated MIA to Northern South America.
Some based LHR - FRA - CDG.
Occasionally came across one going from USA to Europe, or Europe to USA.
Not live flight, just ferry or positioning. No long ETOPS back then...
They stopped YQX to refuel, then SNN next stop. Only 1,850 NM distance.
Well within range of aircraft. Or they could route through KEF and PIK...
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yak42
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:02 am

Thanks B747skipper! Would you know what flights they flew in Europe? Would it be like AR's operations from MAD?
 
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:38 am

The A300B4s were only involved in inter-European ops for a very short period of time (mostly on the IGS routes). Most of them were used for Central American and Carribbean flights as well as some domestics (JFK-MIA, SFO-LAX-MIA). For a short period in 1984/85, they were also used intra-Asia (NRT-TPE-BKK, NRT-MNL) just before the Pacific route sale to UA.
 
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:44 am

Yak 42 -
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Exactly, they operated such as FRA to IST or CDG to ATH...
I do not recall any specifics... some experts may tell you which flights they operated on "07 FEB 1988".
I do not have that expertise.
Basically was hub and spoke in Europe.
We landed a full load 747, some A300 or 727 flew to the other places...
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:57 am

I remember taking an A300 from JFK to MIA back in the day as well.
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 1:35 pm

I dont know if they stopped there often, but I was at Bangor Maine once and a Pan Am A300 had stopped there for refueling. I dont know if it was an emergency landing or not.

does anyone know the flight number of the Pan Am flight from SFO LAX MIA that was daily served by an A300? it left at 6.00 AM out of SFO.
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:08 pm

Pan Am flight #42 operated SFO-LAX-MIA daily with the A300...6:00am departure. Flight 42 continued from MIA to MCO but the equipment switched to a B727. Hope this helps! This information was good as of July, 1989.


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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:55 pm

In the early 80s PanAm used them for all of their flights between Frankfurt FRA and Berlin TXL. As far as I can remember there were between 5 and 7 flights per day.
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RE: Pan Am A300B4 Operations

Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:05 am

Yep, the A300s were used in the caribbean. I picked up a photo of my grandma sitting in a PanAm A300 in St. Thomas (I'm guessing St.Thomas-JFK.) She also took pictures of the exterior of the aircraft in which "Clipper Dallas" and "Clipper Houston" were used. This was back in 1986.
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