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Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:52 pm

This is a rundown of Pan Am's Transpacific service in 1984, just two years prior to the selling of all Pacific routes to United. Let us never forget the profoud impact that Pan American World Airways had on commercial aviation. There will never be another airline like the original Pan Am.

Some key features:

* Pan Am had a good sized hub in NRT which saw nonstops to Beijing, Hong Kong, Manila, Osaka, Shanghai, Singapore, and Taipei, plus nonstops to Los Angeles, New York/JFK, and San Francisco.

* Los Angeles saw Boeing 747 and 747SP nonstops to Sydney, Tokyo, and one-stop direct service to Auckland via Honolulu.

* Pan Am offered daily JFK-Tokyo service on the 747SP aircraft. The flight, #801, continued on to Taipei, Seoul, or Singapore depending on the day of the week. Pan Am was the first airline in the world to offer nonstop New York-Tokyo service.

* Pan Am's main Pacific base was in San Francisco. Below you will find a rundown of all the daily PA flights from the SFO hub in this time period. I have listed the city, departure time, flight number, aircraft type, number of stops, and the days of operation. All flights operated daily unless noted.

Beijing 12:00pm #17 B747 One Stop Sunday

Chicago/O'Hare 1:30pm #562 B727 Nonstop

Dallas/Ft.Worth 12:30pm #576 B727 Nonstop

Detroit 1:30pm #562 B727 One Stop

Frankfurt 9:00am #172 B747 One Stop

Hong Kong 2:15pm #5 B747SP Nonstop

Honolulu 5:45pm #125 B747 Nonstop

Houston/IAH 12:45pm #712 B727 Nonstop

London/LHR 5:30pm #124 B747 Nonstop

Los Angeles 7:15pm #815 B747SP Nonstop MoWeFr

Manila 12:00pm #11 B747 One Stop MoWeSa

Melbourne 7:15pm #815 B747SP Two Stops MoWeFr

Miami 12:30pm #576 B727 One Stop

New Orleans 12:45pm #712 B727 One Stop

New York/JFK 9:00am #72 B747 Nonstop
11:15am #6 B747SP Nonstop

Seoul 12:00pm #11 B747 One Stop Thursday

Singapore 2:15pm #5 B747SP One Stop

Sydney 7:15pm #815 B747SP One Stop MoWeFr

Tokyo 12:00pm #11 B747 Nonstop

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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:51 pm

Thanks for sharing that!

I think it's impossible to forget what Pan American and its staff gave to the world throughout the course of its existance.

However, some people seem only interested in what is happening now, and don't seem to have any care for the past. I'm not one of those at all  Smile Airline history is as interesting to me as things happening now!

I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:50 pm

Thanks MSYtristar for posting that info... as a child i remember seeing the 747's all lined up in a row at SFO, preparing for the afternoon departures to Asia.... fond memories.

do you know the flight number of the SFO LAX MIA that departed SFO at 6 am, and left LAX at around 8 AM? i believe it operated right up unitl the end with an A300. that was the last Pan Am flight i took.
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:13 pm

Brings back great memories of Pan Am. I was fortunate to experience quite a few PA flights, including 801/800 non-stops JFK-NRT-JFK. Very sad when PA went out of business. Also, as a reflection, I read a lot on the trip reports about airline clubs at different airports. IMHO the PA Clipper Clubs were second to none!
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:07 pm

the Clipper Clubs were GREAT. you could see all kinds of people there... movie stars, etc. especially in LAX, SFO and JFK clubs.
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:22 am

In comparison, Pan Am's Pacific ops were actually quite small compared to what NW and UA have today. The actual transpac crossings in the 80s on a somewhat consistent basis included:
PA 801 JFK-NRT 747SP Daily
PA 803 JFK-NRT 747SP 3X weekly (can't remember which year)
PA 11 SFO-NRT 747 Daily
PA 21 LAX-NRT 747 Daily
PA 831 HNL-NRT 747 Daily
PA 5 JFK-SFO-HKG 747SP Daily
PA 811 JFK-LAX-HNL-SYD 1x weekly 747
PA 811 JFK-LAX-HNL-AKL-SYD 3x weekly 747
PA 815 SFO-LAX-SYD 3x weekly 747SP

That's a total of only 6 flights a day - not much compared to what UA has done to the system today.

The SFO-LAX-MIA A300 flight was PA 42 which left SFO at 0600; return was PA 43
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:31 am

I flew from SFO to GUM every summer from 1969 to 1981 on Pan American. They were the only airline I knew of until my family switched to Continental and Northwest. I did miss the familiarity with PA. I liked the Clipper Club in SFO and remember having my first cup of coffee at the age of 11 before the flight to Honolulu and my mom wondering why she couldn't keep me from bouncing off the walls of the plane all the way to HNL.
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:56 pm

I can't recall how many times I visited JFKs Clipper Club. The view was fantastic especialy from the bar located right in the middle of the club. I've still got my Clipper Club luggage tag after all these years.
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:45 pm

Panamair - are you sure about your US-Australia services? I used to work at SYD in the 70 and am sure PA 811 was daily and had been since the early 60's and there were other PA flights as well???

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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:27 pm

Not on topic, but I have very fond memories of PA in the South-Pacific.

First 747 - PA flight between SYD-NAN
First 707 - PA flight between AKL-PPT
First Oral Sex - PA flight between HNL-AKL (LOL)

come visit the south pacific
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:18 am

Pan Am did not enjoy a great reputation in either Aust or NZ for their in flight service. In fact, most people chose to fly QF or NZ rather than PA.
Aircraft flown:F27,Viscount. EMB120, SAAB340, ATR70, 737-200.737-300,DC8, DC10,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400, A320, A3
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RE: Pan Am's Pacific In 1984

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:29 am

The schedule I listed above was more or less for the eighties..looking at some early '70s schedules, there were definitely more flights into SYD (using 707s and 747s) with connections from SYD up to Hong Kong, Jakarta, and Denpasar, in addition to the transpacific runs.

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