TAP1972
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Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:01 am

Hi Guys

One question regarding the pic below.

Is this A319 landing or taking off? And why?


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I think it's landing, but I may be wrong. What do you think?


Sam
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:05 am

I vote for taking off. The flaps don't seem extended enough for a landing.
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:06 am

Looking at the flaps it looks like takeoff. There is also no smoke from the tires so it doesn't look like a landing.

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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:07 am

Dear Sam -
xxx
I do not know the Airbus, but I looked at it by curiosity.
One detail, seems awful little amount of TE flaps extention for a landing.
Besides, its main gear is on the ground, normally some spoilers should deploy.
I would venture to say, it is on rotation for takeoff.
Maybe if you compare to other A-319/320 pictures of landing/takeoffs...
xxx
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:08 am

I would think taking off, because flaps arent retracted that far, the spoilers arent up yet, and you would probably see the smoke from the tires if it had just landed.
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:18 am

It is definitely taking off. No questions asked.
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:25 am

I can see the heat from the engines so it is a take off.
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:27 am

The photo was taken on FRA's runway 18 - and this runway is only used for take-offs, never for landings.
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:28 am

The picture is taken at Rwy 18, and that is only used for taking-off.

Max
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:32 am

The "give away" for me that it is taking off is that the tail plane flaps (right word?) seem to be angled just slightly upward.
 
TAP1972
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:35 am

Guys

Thanks very much for your posts, looking carefully again to the picture and taking into consideration your comments I'm convinced.

Thanks to all and a special thanks to B747skipper.

Rgds

Sam
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:10 am

Compare to this A321 landing [note spoilers are being deployed]:

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The take-off gets my vote . . .

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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:45 am

Incidentally, you can't judge by the horizontal stabilizer position (above referred to as "tail plane flaps"). During landing, they're guenerally deflected upward as well, as a landing is a controlled stall into the ground.

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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:59 am

very little use of flap, no spoilers, no thrust reverse . That plane is taking off.
cheers
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:18 am

"Thanks to all and a special thanks to B747skipper."

Why special thanks to skipper?? The people above said the same thing before he posted!!

I'd say thanks to Ndebele, since he figured out first it was runway 18, and that 18 is only used for takeoffs!!
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:52 pm

The give away is the elevator position. On landing, the entire horizontal stabiliser is deflected up a few degrees due to nose up trim, but on take-off, less is required so the angle of the elevators in the photo, plus the neutral stab. setting, and the flaps, indicate rotation.

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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:17 pm

Yes the elevator position was my bet aswell....

However i just wanna add how much i like the special livery..... Big grin
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:07 am

guys, he's in a hover



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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:11 am

As Ndebele wrote: this pic is taken on 18 West at FRA. And 18 West is only for take off. So no doubt: take off.
 
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RE: Question: Is This A319 Landing Or Taking Off?

Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:44 am

That bloomin' bus is departing. Why? Why? you ask? So it can get to the next destination  Smile
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