N730AS
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AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:49 am

I was making plans to fly in June, and was using the AS timetable program to pick the route I wanted. I wanted to fly on one of their 737 combi a/c, and saw that they use the designation "73M" for it. After searching some more (to find the time I wanted to depart) I saw the "73S" designation. I was under the impression that "73S" was a normal (not a combi a/c) 737-200. Could this be one of the BP/ARCO "Shared Services Aviation" flights? I was also sure that AS didn't own any 73S's. Do they own the BP/ARCO charter A/C? Do they operate the BP/ARCO charter flights? Thanks in advance.
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HikesWithEyes
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:58 am

The 73S is one of the combi 737-200s.
The S means that it the flight you are looking at will
probably be operated in an all passenger configurations-
111 seats and no cargo loaded in the pallet positions.
The 73M means that it could be in 2/3/5 pallet configuration,
with cargo in the upper deck.
All of the 737-200s operated by Alaska are convertible, there
are none dedicated to passenger only service.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:56 pm

N730AS, if you pick out just about any of the Alaska bush destinations, Bethel, Deadhorse, Nome, Kotzebue, Dillingham, King Salmon, Yakatat, Cordova, Barrow, it is going to be pretty much a sure bet you will be on one of the -200's.

The smaller the village the more likely.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:09 pm

Alaska flies the 737 comb's within Alaska. They do not fly them in the continental US.

I flew AS for the first time in September on a 737-400 from YVR-SFO. They have the best service on any domestic airline.
 
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:30 pm

73M is the Boeing 737 Combi...
They flew within Alaska and some flights to certain Alaskan coastal cities from Seattle.

It is certainly an interesting plane to fly.

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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:56 pm

Mickmix, I wouldn't go for quite that positive of a statement.

I know that they do sometimes get tasked for the Milkrun down to Seattle.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:06 pm

Flew on one from FAI-ANC last month and it was really cool. Kinda nice having so much head room (what with the tiny overhead compartments). Seats are more cramped though. Best part is boarding from outside via the rear stairs.
 
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:27 pm

They flew within Alaska and some flights to certain Alaskan coastal cities from Seattle.

Very, very, very rare that they fly south of SEA. It will only happen if it has to swap a/c.

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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:41 pm

Yes, rarely.

But I do recall that 746AS did spend most of a summer flying in the lower 48 before it was brought north after it was purchased in 1994.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:41 pm

Yes, frequently AS 64 is 73M, which goes ANC-JNU-PSG-WRG-KTN-SEA. AS 65 returns as SEA-KTN-WRG-PSG-JNU-ANC.

The other "milkrun" is AS 66 ANC-CDV-YAK-JNU-SEA. Returns as AS 61, reverse routing.

 
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RE: AS A/C Question

Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:04 pm

I flew 61 from CDV-ANC, I'm sure the A/C is the same as Mizzou65201 said from SEA-ANC (with stops). It was my first run in a combi, great experience.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:43 am

Yes, I have flown on Alaska's "73M" before. I was really hoping that the "73S" that was in Alaska's timetable program was the BP/ARCO Charter to BRW, but I guess it is just a combi aircraft filled with no pallets in the main cabin (HikesWithEyes gave a very clear response).

L-188: If I'm not mistaken, didn't N746AS just get put into storage in the desert?
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RE: AS A/C Question

Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:35 am

I don't know, AirframeAS or EA CO AS are going to be able to give a better answer then I can.

I know that AS got N746AS in 1994 when I was working there from Markair and I believe some of their combi's where bought from Boeing directly. So there is a chance that 746AS may be a fairly young bird.

They took it down to Seattle, worked on it, gave it a paint job and then kept it flying down there until the end of the season, before it was brought up to Anchorage, right before I got laid off.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:50 am

N730AS

Last time I flew home I took AS 143 from ANC to FAI. That was a 737-200 that was in all coach layout... The flight was continuing on to either Barrow or Prudhoe Bay. There were about 20 people on the plane and I was the only one getting off in FAI. You might be able to get your 73S on that flight... but I'd imagine it could switch from all passenger to passenger/cargo from day to day...

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N730AS
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RE: AS A/C Question

Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:58 am

Thanks for all the answers. Well I must stir this topic up some more. Why would AS call a full passenger "73M" flight a "73S", when those designations are for the particular A/C, not the layout of the A/C in question?
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HikesWithEyes
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RE: AS A/C Question

Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:05 am

Various replies/comments:

I think the 73M stands for mixed config and 73S is "seats"
as in all seat configuration.

746 is parked at Mojave. Search photos for "Alaska Airlines"
and you will see it there....sort of sad, but time marches on.

It is no longer BP/ARCO...the latest merger/buy/conglomeration
is "Conoco/Phillips". At any rate, sometime in June the contract will
no longer be Alaska's. I believe that Northern Air Cargo is taking over.
Those 2 737-200s are not combis...they are all passenger 200s leased
from Braathens/SAFE (spelling?) from Norway.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:08 am

I'm just going to chime in that it was less then a month ago that I saw a AS 732-Combi at the beginning of the C-Concourse at SEA; so I gurantee you that they do fly to SEA. They fly to the contentinal US. I don't know if they fly south of SEA however....
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Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:14 am

BCAInfoSys, as Mizzou65201 said, there are 2 -200 flights to and from SEA . these flights both go up the AK coast.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:56 pm

I don't know, AirframeAS or EA CO AS are going to be able to give a better answer then I can.

L-188, you're right about that one  Big thumbs up Thats how AS got the -200Cs

Edited:

I'm just going to chime in that it was less then a month ago that I saw a AS 732-Combi at the beginning of the C-Concourse at SEA; so I gurantee you that they do fly to SEA.

Thats at gate C1. AS stores the seat pallets in a storage room right near that gate so thats where they usually set up the configurations, etc.



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L-188
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RE: AS A/C Question

Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:08 pm

Well 746AS came from Markair.

And I think that Wien also contributed some -200QC's many many moons ago.

But again don't quote me on that.
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RE: AS A/C Question

Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:56 pm

I actually was out "bird watching" at the water tank a couple nights ago and watched AS 66 come in. You gotta love the combi's.

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