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It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:46 am

A little retro, and I think it's brilliant apart from that awful tie/scarf.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/04/05/ba.uniforms.ap/index.html
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:48 am

Starlion, its great and i cant wait to start wearing it.

It will take a year to roll out though!
 
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:49 am

Looks better than the old one, which was (at least to me) a "grandma" look on the ladies.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:50 am

Looks great!!! Thanks for sharing that with us Starlionblue.
 
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:23 am

Finally a decent photo! Better than that drawing that was posted on here a few months ago.

I think the uniform is great. Very professional looking! Makes the easyJet 'uniform' look pathetic  Laugh out loud

More photos:
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-04-05-ba-style_x.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/05/nba05.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/05/ixnewstop.html
http://www.vogue.co.uk/vogue_daily/story/story.asp?stid=16648

That last one is good  Smile

The old hat looks really bad when you look at the new uniform  Laugh out loud

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[Edited 2004-04-06 19:26:59]
 
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:28 am

Oddly, the BA website has no mention of this. Oops...
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:28 am

Yes but Jaspike its still only the Promotional team wear get to wear the hat!
Unfortunately. I cant wait to wear it, i get my fitting in May!
 
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:30 am

Well the promotional team will look very nice  Big thumbs up

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:32 am

Change the tie/scarf! The 80s are OVER... Simple geometric patterns people. ARGH!
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:37 am

Yeah it looks really nice, I quite like the hat and the scarf.  Big thumbs up

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:35 am


ANYTHING is better than the current pleats those poor women have to wear. What was that designer THINKING!
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:37 am

Is this the same new uniform that was first revealed in Jan last year?
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:57 am

I read about it on a BA flight last weekend. Just scanned in some pages from the inflight mag for you to look at.

http://www.tmfy.com/anet/ba/ba1.jpg
http://www.tmfy.com/anet/ba/ba2.jpg
http://www.tmfy.com/anet/ba/ba3.jpg
http://www.tmfy.com/anet/ba/ba4.jpg

They are kind of huge, i couldn't be bothered to make them smaller, haha!

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:02 am

I read about it in today's "The Sun". I think it looks pretty good considering that it is nearly the same as their 1950's style uniform. It's a thumbs up from me  Big thumbs up. Well done BA!

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:05 am

Call me old fashioned (and I can say this because I am female) but the female FA's need to ware skirts!!!!! The trousers just don’t look British.

Other then that the uniform looks okay, nothing special though.

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Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:56 am

I think it looks superb!! Nothing like a bit of classy and timeless retro look.
Lufthansa in the early 80's had nice uniforms but they changed those into something quite generic and uninspiring.
Hope the FA's like wearing the new gear.
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:32 am

Love the pillbox hat and scarf. Very chic.

Skirts need to be shorter to give it that "less than frumpy" look.

But then again, who wants to see some dowdy homophobic frump's cottage cheese thighs?
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:33 am

As a retired FA, I think that the new uniform is outstanding! The previous was OK, but this new one will go on forever. It is classic and will look good on everyone.
 
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:44 am

Good job BA, I love the hat and the low cut boot cut pants seem to be great.
Thumbs up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Smile
The male counterpart of the uniform isn't bad either .
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:47 am

I think it is very smart looking and job well done....
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:15 am

BA has always had a reputation for professionalism. These uniforms only go to show that British design has come a long way. The late Princess Diana did wonders for the British fashion industry and MacDonald, in an industrial way, is doing the same thing. A terrific looking ensemble - great British professionalism.
 
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:12 pm

Call me old fashioned (and I can say this because I am female) but the female FA's need to ware skirts!!!!! The trousers just don’t look British.

I can understand where you're coming from with this statement, however ground staff everywhere will be wearing this and judging from reactions here, the trousers will be well-received. Don't forget that not everywhere has British weather. Try telling an ground agent that she has to walk across the snow and wind swept ramp at YYZ in -30C weather because trousers "just don't look British". The trousers are only a part of the uniform, and I'm sure many will opt for the skirt. If you watch the Lufthansa or Air France crew walk through a terminal, one of the things that strikes you is that not everyone looks the same. And that's interesting in that the uniform is flexible to allow for a bit of individuality. I'm, personally, very pleased that trousers are being offered for females, as are my co-workers who will be better equipped to handle a Boston winter.

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Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:07 pm

I'm flabbergasted!

That uniform is absolutely awesome!

They look SO classy!!!

My thought was - oh my god, the age of the Stewardess is back!!

Top notch - well done!! I envy the BA staff who get to wear it!!

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:34 pm

LH423, I agree about the trousers. I'm sure that many will still choose the skirt, but the trousers look very stylish so it's not a problem.

If the females are allowed to wear trousers, should the males be allowed to wear skirts?  Big grin
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:51 pm

Odd, I have seen BA crew in Pakistan and they never were in the "frumpy floral pleated skirt" uniform ever, infact the style was more like this one and I'm talking about the mid 90's, did they have different styles for different routes?
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:05 pm

I wish we could wear such classy uniforms...
 
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:44 pm

Airmale. I'm just speculating but maybe there were localized versions so as not to clash with local cultural taboos.
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:38 pm

Ewwwwuuw - HATE the hat ! Definitely a Jackie-O wannabe. The rest is OK, average BA boring, nothing to write home about. What is it with British airlines and hats for FA's ? Nobody but nobody else has them - get with the 21st century !
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:42 pm

I love the hat that is the best part. The British Airways ribbon looks great on the hat. It looks very 1960's.

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:46 pm

I think it looks very classy and retro, but still modern.

Sammyhostie... you mention only the promotional team get to wear the hat. I read a few weeks ago that the hats would be for all cabin crew compared to the the old uniform hat which was just used for the promo team and Concorde. Any idea why the decision has been changed?
 
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:59 pm

I think the hat is there to bring back some atmosphere of the golden age of commercial aviation, AKA the 50s and 60s.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:09 pm

And if you think of it, a hat is very British, I think it was in that article in the BA magazine (this month), where Julien Macdonald said that if you look at the Queen, she's never seen without a hat. Anyway, that hat looks fab, hope the main crew get to wear it, not just the promotional team, it just completes the uniform, just look at the Icelandair girls with their hats on!
 
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:10 pm

If I was an FA, I'd be sick to death of being some fashionista's retro-victim. OK anything is probably better than the pleated Mary Poppins number they get to wear at the moment (blazers with silver buttons, oh please ! Last seen sinking on the Titanic...)

I have no objection to airlines bringing back the atmosphere of the golden age of flying, but they can do it in more meaningful ways than giving the trolley-dollies a silly hat to wear (no offense, but that's what that pillbox thing is saying !). How about 24in wide seats with 38in pitch, cocktails followed by a hot meal, served on china - in Economy class ? That'll get them beating down your door, not 50's headgear.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:17 pm

The pillbox is probably much more comfortable than the current number.

JGPH1A. I agree with you about the rest. But right now all these companies are trying to squeeze blood out of a stone, so this is a way of renewing themselves, without spending any real money.
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:19 pm

Re: if you look at the Queen, she's never seen without a hat

Well Julian McDonald should know all about queens...

So 21st Century Air Travel is all about looking like an 87 year old great grandmother who hasn't changed her image since 1971 ? Come on BA, you can do better - FA's are professionals responsiblity for passenger safety, not billboards for British Fashion Week's enfant bloody awful. Cool Britannia - NOT !
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:23 pm

Cool Britannia: That's what Virgin is for...  Big grin
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:24 pm

Starlionblue, they were regular airline uniforms featuring regular knee length skirts, just that they werent the pleated floral style, they were like the new uniform with plain dark blue skirt. There are no restrictions on foreign airlines crew unifroms in Pakistan, they step into the country in their skirts, legs fully exposed.
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Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:25 pm

So 21st Century Air Travel is all about looking like an 87 year old great grandmother who hasn't changed her image since 1971 ? Come on BA, you can do better - FA's are professionals responsiblity for passenger safety, not billboards for British Fashion Week's enfant bloody awful. Cool Britannia - NOT !

Huh? The Queen doesn't often dress up as a professional looking air stewardess. At least not in public.

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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:27 pm

Airmale: Ok, I'm stumped. Better find some BA F/As to explain it.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:39 pm

Hey, I think it's a classy look. Hope it's comfortable for the crew.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:09 pm

Airmale

What you saw is BA's winter uniform. The 'floral pleated skirt' is their summer uniform, their navy blue knee-length skirt is the winter one. This summer/winter version was strictly adhered to by cabin staff back in thoe 90's. However, as of the last couple of years, cabin staff were allowed to wear the navy bluue (winter) skirt during summer time, should they have wanted to. Managment simply relaxed the rules. So now you'll see a bunch of crew walking the terminals in either skirt version.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:19 pm

Take away those sorry excuses for hats! Yak! Make the girls look pathetic - no respect is conveyed - just pure bimboism!

If the stewardesses (with that uniform style no other description will do!) wear hats, why not the stewards? But better if no hats were worn.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:29 pm

What's with all hat-bashing going on here?

Personally, I love them. It's (mostly) always been part of a female's uniform, and has always set airlines and FA's uniforms apart from other uniform-wearers of other industries (those who wear uniforms and working for restaurants, hotels, civil servants, etc). Simply sets them apart.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:39 pm

The hats will only be used for promotional work anyway.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:17 pm

Two thumbs up.. IT looks fabulous and way better than the current one.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:11 am

Shamrock,

The hats are very expensive to make, so hence why the Promo team and VIP flight crew/groung staff will be wearing them.

The whole of LGW and LHR want the hats tho! Perhaps if we campaign they might let us buy one!

The uniform will take over a year to roll out though, so i wont get mine until at least July.

The old one is so uncomfortable to wear, it was very warm here today and it just clings to you! Nice.

Oh and by the way...there will be several 74's returning to LGW this year! Excellent.

 
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:04 am

mmmmmmMuch better!  Big thumbs up
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:05 am

They look like bus driver uniforms in most major US cities.
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RE: It's A New Look For BA F/As

Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:53 am

Brilliant!

The new uniforms look excellent. I think they took a step in the right direction. Personally, I think that the trousers look more professional than the skirt, and the hat just tops it all off. When I flew Concorde, the Purser told me that the hats were only worn by Concorde aircrew and only while not onboard the aircraft.

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