When we´re talking about DC10 / MD11:
Dont you guys think this models have the biggest windows in cockpit?
Those behind the captain and F/O, any other a/c with bigger windows?
The MD-11 is easy to differ from the DC-10. And yes, the MD-11 does have the biggest windows in the cockpit I believe. Also, I think that DC-10/MD-11 has the largest cockpit between the L-1011, 747, and A330/A340.
Ways to distinguish an MD-11 from a DC-10:
-- The MD-11 obviously is noticeably longer than a DC-10
-- The winglets in its self is a dead giveaway
-- The center main boogie can narrow down the possibility to either a DC-10-30/-40 or an MD-11
-- The MD-11 has a much different, squared tailcone than the rounded DC-10s
-- The MD-11s No. 2 engine features the DC-10-40s "inflamed" engine air intake
-- The MD-11 has a smaller vertical tailfin
The MD-10 is simply a DC-10 with upgraded avionics and engines. They also have a gross weight increase. The only way you can tell is by looking at the nose of a FedEx aircraft and seeing the "MD-10" notation or knowing their tail numbers. They don't have flight engineers but the station remains largely intact, there just aren't guages on it any more. The cockpit is glass as well.
The entire engineer's panel is removed from the flight deck. So if you were to look into the cockpit from the ground, the RT aft most window would have no obstruction (the engineer's panel would normally be seen here on a DC10). Also another difference that you would be able to notice from the exterior is the outflow valve is upgraded on the MD10, similar to the MD11.
So, what does the FE station on MD-10 flight deck look like now? Is there still a seat with a table top at least? Or, did they take out everything and replace it with just another forward facing jumpseat?
Yes the seat and table is still there after the conversion. They only removed the vertical F/E panel.
How much bigger do you think they could make the windows? I am pretty sure the entire cockpit dimensions are exactly the same. And extending the MD11 fuselage to make the MD12??? If this were true, they would have to place the additional length forward of the gear. The 11 already has a reputation for tail strikes due to it's additional length aft of the gear. The pilots can not fly the MD11 like a MD/DC10.
I give up, why the relocation of the #1 VHF antenna?
The DC-10 was build by Douglas Aircraft here in Long Beach and the MD-11 was built by MacDonald/ Douglas. Think things went down hill after MacDonald bought out Douglas. An interesting fact is if you ever have the pleasure of being at LGB you will notice to the right as you land from the south a wonderful old sign that was saved by our proud citizens. Boeing tried to take it down. It blazes in neon a 60's style space travel beauty and says
"FLY DOUGLAS JETS."
Let me first apologize for forgetting about this thread.
>>>The MD10 has the big VHF antenna (sharkfin) midway down the top of the fuselage; the DC10 is close to the front.
Who can guess why?<<<
The MD10 like the MD11 has the #1 VHF antenna mounted much further aft on the upper fuselage as to alleviate any antenna ice formation breaking off and being ingested into the #2 engine.
There is no antenna anti-ice incorporated on the MD10 or MD11 for this reason.
The DC10 with its #1 VHF antenna mounted further forward incorporates antenna anti ice which turns on when #2 engine anti-ice is selected to prevent ice from forming on the #1 VHF antenna.