nycfuturepilot
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How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:22 am

I'm booking a flight now and my choices for stops are in ATL or CVG. I've never been to CVG so I'm thinking about making the stop there even though it adds an hour to my travel time. Is it worth it?
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cvgbear
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:27 am

NO...

CVG consists of 3 terminals. The one in which you will land and depart is terminal 3 or as the natives call it..."The Delta Terminal". We're not that creative in Northern Kentucky!  Smile Unless you're a huge Delta fan, you might as well tread ATL. At least there's more shops, etc. I was thrilled when Starbucks finally showed up.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:32 am

I'd only have 35 min to connect at ATL, is that enough? I'm especially nervous because the DAB-ATL leg of the flight has a 50% on-time performance. DL does ATL-LGA hourly though so it won't be the worst if i miss it.
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:35 am

I flew through both ATL and CVG in January, and I quite enjoyed both. ATL is large, and has great shops, but taking the bus between terminals at CVG can be interesting to. Its not everyday you get to ride in a vehicle across the tarmac, right there with all the aircraft. If you have already been to ATL, I'd say go with CVG this time around. Plus its one more airport to add to your list of different airports you have been through. That's my opinion.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:39 am

Understandable...my partner calls it Hellanta for a reason. I must admit, while not very exciting and with little to "see", you'd probably not have any problems through here. And you can say that you've been in Kentucky! LOL. Also, DL is VERY strict about the closure of their flights...if it's closed, it's closed. They were closing 15 minutes before flight time last time I flew.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:46 am

I have traveled out of ATL (via DL) for over 20 years and know that airport like the back of my hand. I live in CMH, which means I have also traveled through CVG a few times in the past 5 or 6 years.

For the amenities, I would go ATL. Hartsfield just has so many shops and food stands there, on every concourse. But, with only 35 mins to connect, you might be cutting it close and here's why:

--ATL arrivals are often times, depending on the volume of traffic, held on the ramp after landing until they can get assigned a gate. I can recall several flights where I have been held on the ramp for as long as 30 minutes, and the average is anywhere from 10 to 20.

--also, if you have to change concourses to make your connection, you'll have to use the people mover...and depending on where you come in on your arrival concourse (for example, if you deplane at A38) it can be quite a hike just to get to ATL's PM...plus, the train ride may take some time...and then the walk to your departure gate...so if all you have is 35 mins, I would go through CVG.

I just flew through CVG last week on my way to ATL, and even though I had nearly a 2 hr layover, I would have surely made my next flight if all I had was roughly a half hour.

The good thing about CVG is that they have a nice food court/atrium area in the center of Concourses A and B...as well as a Wolfgang Puck Cafe on Concourse A...plus, the decor is modern and fresh, to include those plasma flight information screens at every gate.

I'm biased to ATL, just b/c I am from there and know the ins and outs of that madhouse. But, if you dont want to deal with big crowds and more craziness, go CVG.
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:47 am

I really enjoyed flying through CVG, I thought it was an awesome airport. I think you should give it a shot. I prefer it over ATL myself. Last time I was there was January and I thought they had plenty of places to shop and eat. I think they just opened a new batch of concessions recently. Concourses B and C are very modern and all-around pretty nice. Terminal A is okay, but a little dead. If you're really into spotting, CVG won't be nearly as exciting as ATL, though. But besides that, I think it's a great place.
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:49 am

I had 2 relatives who flew Delta, they flew DTW-CVG, CVG-LAX, on the way back, LAX-ATL, ATL-DTW... In the end ( after bugging them about the flights / airports etc. ) they told me CVG was nice and they liked CVG the best, but ATL was pretty good too.
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:40 am

I love Delta dearly, but ATL and CVG are two of the most boring, gruesomely repetitive hub airports in the United States. If it's variety you're looking for, I'd say go with Atlanta. You'll see some widebodies, some varied mainline aircraft and some AirTran 717s to boot (along with the odd 'other airline'... somehow Atlanta ATC keeps permitting them to land  Smile ).

Cincinnati, on the other hand, is nothing but RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ after RJ. Glancing at Delta's flight schedule, it appears they do have a decent mainline presence there, although you'd never know it! It gives CLE and MEM a run for their money where sheer boredom is concerned.

Neither the ATL or CVG terminal is particularly memorable either. Atlanta is getting especially nasty as it approaches 25 years old - time for some heavy renovation, folks!

As I said, I love Delta and grew up flying them. They're a fantastic airline, but if it's an exciting and varied hub experience you're looking for, look somewhere else.  Smile
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:34 am

Thanks for your input. I think i may end up taking the one through ATL because it gets me in much earlier and CVG really doesnt sound worth it lol. If i do miss the connection, do i get bonus miles or meal vouchers from delta?
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:37 am


If you miss the flight, you will get on the next flight. Nothing else unless the next flight is hours and hours away.

If you are looking for sightseeing, pick ATL. If you want a fast, quick and painless connection, choose CVG.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:39 am

I think CVG is awesome. Its the most convenient air hub in the country.

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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:50 am

I agree with Gigneil, it to me, is one of the easiest airports to get around in the country, very easy to get between terminals, and there may not be as many shops and such, it's not like there is a lack of them either. I personally prefer CVG over other connecting airports just because of it's ease of use. I don't know how old it is either, but it's taken care of very well, especially Concourse B. Concourse A could use a little remodeling, but it's still not bad.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:05 pm

I'd have to agree with Jsnww81 that CVG is RJ after RJ (with a 763 spliced in here and there), but I can think of other hubs that are 10 times more boring than ATL or CVG...

--MKE...quasi-hub to Midwest...terribly boring.
--STL...former TWA hub, mini-AA hub...drab, and the terminal holding Southwest is like 800 miles from the rest of the airport.
--DFW...talk about drab...you cant get much more drab than DFWs repeated use of the color brown on practically everything...and doesn't have a better plane selection than ATL...

Basically, Gigneil and Syncmaster summed it up by saying that if ease of use is what you want, go CVG...if good plane selection and a little bit of excitement is what you want, go ATL...
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:18 pm


"Basically, Gigneil and Syncmaster summed it up by saying that if ease of use is what you want, go CVG...if good plane selection and a little bit of excitement is what you want, go ATL... "

hmmm... didn't I say that also - and before them? Guess if your not respected, you don't get respect!  Big grin
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:35 pm

Respected, you? Ha....

Just kidding of course....credit goes where credit is deserved...to all three of us!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:47 pm

I guess since CVG is my home airport, I didn't realize actually how lovely Terminal 3 really is until reading this string. Everyone is right Nycfuturepilot, if you want to ensure you will make your connection, head my way.

Oh, and concourse A seems dead because it would seem that the Delta Connection has taken it over using 328 Jets. Comair is still out of C. NW has moved over to Terminal 3 since the code share merger,but CO is still at Terminal 2.

JSNWW81...you're so right...it is RJ after RJ after RJ around here. My last trip to MIA was on a CRJ-700. I'm sorry, but I'd take an MD-80 over that any day. Just because an RJ can fly that far, doesn't mean it should be flown that far!
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:49 pm

well I just flew through both last weekend. I would suggest Atl for a few simple reasons. First, atl is flat huge and a joy to watch planes but since u will only have a 35 min layover I wouldnt expect to make my connection. I would go with atleast 45 min cushion in case someting goes wrong because your plane can sit on that tarmac waiting to find a gate or cross a runway for a long time. Also, in cvg its mostly delta and not much else and when i was there late at night the airport was dead accept for concourse C. I actully enjoyed CVG alot while I was there for my 4 hour layover my only complaint is the lack of windows to watch the CRj in concourse C.


BTW CVG has some great shops if u like that kinda thing. (one to see is BrooksBrothers!)


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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:02 pm


Syncmaster - of course I was joking. All posts here have been pretty accurate.

BTW - Juanchie makes a good point - CVG has done a lot with restaurants and shops in all three Concourses. I was pleasantly surprised at some of the small bars, specialty shops and food stands that have popped up all over. Of course there is my personal fav - Cincy-style chili. I miss it down here in Texas.... guess that's why I come home to Cincy every couple of months!!
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:18 pm

Deltaffindfw...

I'll make you a deal...you bring me up your REAL tex-mex chili when you come and I'll buy you all the skyline chili you can eat! I miss tex-mex and just don't have a stomach for the stuff they call chili here.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:23 pm

Dude, no question. Listen to Gigneil. CVG rocks, All hell in A-T-L.
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:33 pm

CVG isn't a bad airport at all. I have flown through there for years and remember it when it wasn't much bigger than the old SDF. And DL was flying L-10's in there before they really improved the Terminal. My only complaint was in parts of the old terminal, the windows were down by your feet. Couldn't do much spotting as a kid( I know, how ironic?), but now that's changed. I still go through CVG once a year and I don't mind it at all. But remember, it's Cincinnati, just in Kentucky.  Big thumbs up
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:37 pm


Well - it hasn't changed if you fly AA, CO or UA. They are still there in Terminal 2. What a dump - a long hallway with eight or so gates and only six to ten seats per gate. The windows were at floor level and only three feet high. No bathrooms either - had to walk back into the terminal building itself.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:39 pm

God I hate those damn midget windows in terminal 2, Iflyatldl. They start at the floor and go up to around 3 feet. What the hell was the architect thinking?


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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:42 pm

HEHE  Smile

I used to fly the DAB-LGA route all the time; never went through CVG though. Best advice after 4 years of doing it--DRIVE 40 MILES TO MCO AND CATCH A NONSTOP FLIGHT TO LGA or JFK.

Your flight from DAB will come into C or D concourse and your flight to LGA will depart T concourse. A long walk and an even longer train ride, that 35-minute connection becomes very stressful and annoying.

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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:44 pm

Yeah, I forgot terminal 2. I just remembered the windows. And the backassward stairs. You have the DL terminal and the rest of CVG. Arrgg! Big grin
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RE: How Is CVG?

Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:02 pm

CVG, no question about it. And here's why:

Your connection time.


35 minutes just will not cut it for an ATL connection. You'll miss your next flight. No doubts about it. Even under the best conditions, you won't make it, because remember, they close the flight 15 minutes prior to departure, so in all actuality, your connection time is 20 minutes. Add to that any delays, holds, or lineups...you've got a 10 minute connection. No way, no how.


CVG is fast and easy. And I'd pick that in a heartbeat if I were in your situation.


BUT


IF you can manage an hour or 2 hour connection time, go with ATL. That will be much more exciting. But a 35 minute connection at ATL? Forget it. go with CVG.
 
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RE: How Is CVG?

Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:06 am

That DAB-ATL flight you are refering to..... if its the 7:30 PM flight DONT DO IT!!!...the last flights out of FL are the 1st to get screwed in bad weather. Ive spent the night in concourse A in ATL after we left DAB at 11:30 pm for ATL cuz that flight, and ive seen it happen alot. The only other bad DAB ATL flight is the 2:45 CRJ... that one gets bad ground hold too, but at least you can get rebooked on a later flight.
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