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How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:21 pm

Somebody said on the discussion on the demise of US Air said they would pay the extra $150 to avoid Southwest and go on US Air!

Is that really the sentiment of most people here? For a short domestic flight I probably would not spend more then $10 extra.

Does it really matter if the plane is not very clean for a 2 hour flight - it might matter for long haul but surely not for short haul.

To say that SW is the greyhound of the skies is silly - SW will get you to your destination just as fast as UAL or US Air - Greyhound is far slower.

The main benefits of the high cost airlines are to me - prebook seats and faster check ins especially for self service check in - OK maybe I will pay $20 more but that is the limit!!!

(the situation is slightly different in Europe because different airports become a factor to consider!)

[Edited 2004-04-15 11:21:56]
 
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:30 pm

As an example, for LGW-NCE, BA minimum return fare is £69 and easyJet is £41, an extra cost of £14 per sector is good value for BA.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:33 pm

For me it is more a question, how much I would be willing to spend for certain amenities on a short-haul flight.

There are only a few factors, which would convince me to fly a "full service" airline instead of a LCC if the fare of the "regular" carrier is similar or slightly higher:

- higher number of daily/ weekly frequencies --> more travel options

- seat allocation upon check-in --> I just hate stress

- frequent flyer mileage --> unless it is just laughable, e.g. the new LH mileage on discounted short-haul tickets is between 125 and 500 miles/ segment

I would be willing to pay 30-40 Euro more for a return trip of up to 1 hour/ segment and maybe 50-60 Euro for a longer return flight of over one hour block time for those amenities.


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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:47 pm

The important thing for me is not the onboard service, or the "clean" aeroplane, but rather the queues, the waiting and the restrictions. Low-cos often don't have many check-in desks open per flight and don't have self-service check-in meaning longer queues, they don't offer same day return check-in meaning queuing again and getting to the airport early coming back, they won't through-check me or bags if I'm doing connections, they want you to be at the airport much earlier, they subject you to that mad dash to the aeroplane if you want a good seat, they nit-pick about the size and weight of my camera/laptop bag much more than do full service carriers, etc.

Basically, the "normal" carriers are generally a much lower stress experience than the low-cos and that can be worth quite a bit to me. So I avoid the low-cos as much as possible, and only when the cost-case is overwelmingly compelling to I use them. As an example, I travel to Geneva fairly regularly and if I book well in advance EasyJet EMA-GVA can be very cheap. However, Duo on BHX-GVA often have a £59 all in each way fare available, with all the frills. So Duo costs double or more what Easy charge when they're cheap, but I'd take Duo every time. Added to which, the parking at BHX is cheaper than EMA, so the cost difference erodes to some degree.

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:32 pm

That's why I like jetBlue. Lower fares, good inflight service, and I can pick my seats ahead of time. With SW, I hate the cattle call so much, I always get there early and I have always been in the top 10 on the boarding.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:41 pm

Depends on the airport distance from civilization too. Stansted-Skavsta is just horrible compared to Heathrow-Arlanda.

I would happily pay up to €50 extra round trips for BA or SK over FR.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:44 pm

You've been in the top 10! Didn't the parents with young children beat you to it?
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:46 pm

Apparently very few people are willing to pay more to avoid a LCC, judging by the undercutting of prices by most of the US majors.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:51 pm

Hi

I live in North East London and by far the best airports for me are Luton or Stansted. For a flight inside europe I would pay more to fly from one of these airports on a LCC than sent 2 hours each way on the tube to Heathrow to fly on BA etc.

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Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:21 pm

Richardw,

Fortunately, on the ELP-LUV, and PHX-SAN flights, there just were not enough small children to worry about. From PHX I started flying AWA exclusively because of the preassigned seats. Who needs the hassle?
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:25 pm

I agree with Richcandy

I won't pay more for a short flight.

The only thing I check before buying a ticket from any airport in London is the price of the transport to and from the airport.

Airport trains are very expensive in London (i.e. a return ticket to STN can cost GBP 26.00) and this is the final point for me.

LHR has a very easy access by underground but flights usually are more expensive than the LCC's.

I already flew about 10 times with the LCC's around here and I always had nice and safe flights.

So, you from London, check and re-check the fares before buying your next ticket!  Smile

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:29 pm

Since the LCCs I have flown, Southwest, JetBlue, AirTran and Spirit have new (or in Spirit's case, not too old MD80s) airplanes, decent legroom and overall good service in my opinion, I wouldn't pay anything extra to avoid them. I like them a lot!

Doesn't mean I don't fly main carriers, though. I recently took a trip out to Oakland, California and AA not only had a fare as low as anybody's, they had the most convenient connections so I used them. If a main carrier gives me a more convenient schedule I'm willing to pay a little extra.

But pay extra JUST to avoid an LCC? No way, based on my experience with the above mentioned LCCs.

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:46 pm

I was the one who made those comments, and actually, they weren't toward LCCs in general...just Southwest.

In fact, if you read the forum here... http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1513382/

...you'll see I make it clear that LCCs like AirTran and JetBlue have mastered the idea of an LCC with great "perks" and efficient travel options, while still maintaining low fares.

So, if you compare Southwest with other LCCs, Southwest just doesn't add up.

...so, would I pay an extra $100 to $150 to fly either another LCC or a major carrier? Darn right I would, since I believe the experience of a flight is more than just a dirt cheap fare.

[Edited 2004-04-15 16:47:45]

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:00 am

All else being equal in terms of airports and time of day... I'd pay exactly $0.00 more to fly a major. Lowest bidder wins.
 
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:02 am

depends. I'll pay a small premium for UAL (miles, ch9), and and even smaller premium for DAL (miles). When I'm moving I'd pay a significant (thoguh I've never had to) premium to fly WN becuse of their baggage policy (70x3!!).

In Eyuope I payed a premium to fly Iberia over Ryanair, and definately regretted it, though thats partialy travelocities fault (since when was Orly CDG? grrrrrrrrrr)
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:09 am

I'd pay up to 10% more, mainly for the preassigned seat and the FF miles.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:26 am

I'd pay 10-20% more (depending on the route) for FF miles and seat selection. Between the LCCs, I would always pay more to fly Airtran or JetBlue than WN, who I will never fly again. My time is more important than standing in line two hours before the flight. Also, I don't have time for their on-board games.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:42 am

None. If I get from point A to point B in one piece, I'm satisfied.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:45 am

Im still waiting for your post here Pe@rson Big grin How much extra would you pay? Or will it never happen  Big grin

I would fly any LCC except for FR again if its cheaper than my non-rev Big grin
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:02 am

I prefer to fly the Legacy Airlines, cause if the flight is delayed or Cnld I can get rebooked to another airline with no problem at all. On the LCC if your flight is Cnld your at their mercy most of the LCC have no ticket aggreement with other airlines. Grant it most of the times I just Non-Rev to my destinations,but when I travel to Florida I prefer to buy a ticket.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:05 am

AirTran has done an excellent job in being a LCC. When I fly to Florida I prefer AirTran over USAir. The service is excellent, the queues aren't bad (mostly because I use the online check-in feature!) and the planes are very comfortable. I would definitely avoid WN save for shorter flights. The queues I see on "Airline" are definitely not my cup of tea and I would pay extra to avoid that. Not $100 more if I can avoid it, but I would do my best to find an alternative. For the LCCs in Europe I think I would avoid FR unless using those out-of-the-way airports are what I need. I would gladly try EasyJet or SkyEurope or WIZZ (Hungary is my most common destination).

A bit off topic, but I will pay a bit extra to fly KLM overseas versus other airlines.

Another reason I would pay extra to avoid WN: I like to listen to the regular sounds of the planes, not WN's Super Fun Happy Singsong Shenanigans Time. Fun on TV, not when I'm up there.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:13 am

Another reason I would pay extra to avoid WN: I like to listen to the regular sounds of the planes, not WN's Super Fun Happy Singsong Shenanigans Time. Fun on TV, not when I'm up there.

If anything in the Airline show is done for the benefit of the cameras, the shenanigans are it. In all my flights, while I have head humourous announcements and an occasional "game" on longer flights (which took less than 10 minutes), I haven't been subjected to a two hour floor show by the FA's. Even to "touristy" destinations like Las Vegas or Orlando. As for the humor in the safety briefing...betcha more people pay attention to those than they do the "in the event of a cabin depressurization, secure your oxygen mask first, then those of your children" type of scripted safety speeches.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:26 am

I would not spend an extra penny to avoid an LCC unless I had a legitimate reason. I'll fly on an LCC just as happily as any other airline, and I dont buy into this "LCC's are trailer trash" stuff. I'm actually quite disappointed in some of our members who think that way. Come on.


Now, I had the chance to fly either DL or WN to PDX this summer. I chose DL, you know why? Because I'd get to fly on an MD-90. I also paid a bit more for the ticket. It wasnt avoiding an airline, it was avoiding yet another boring 737, to experience an MD-90 for the first time. Had DL been flying just 733s on the route, I might have taken WN afterall.


I had the opportunity to fly a whole host of airlines, LCC and not, to florida this year. I decided to fly Frontier. Their fares, were more expensive on the route than the competition. but I was willing to pay more just for the experience of flying F9 for the first time. A LCC!

But at the very last minute, F9 raised their fares even higher, beyond my budget, and I ended up booking DL instead, who were priced much lower. I seriously considered NW as well, but they had no IFE, and for a flight of that length, I wanted IFE.


Now I'm about to book a flight to california, and the choice is really between HP, which is a quasi-LCC, and Alaska, which is definitely not a LCC. I'm happy with either of the two, because either way, I get at least two new aircraft types, and the experience of flying on a new airline.


These are deciding factors for me:

1. Aircraft type
2. Connections/Arrival times
3. Airline
4. Cost
5. View from the air on routes
6. Onboard IFE/service, depending on flight length (irrelevant on short flights)
7. Reputation of the airline

In roughly that order.

[Edited 2004-04-15 18:27:29]
 
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:27 am

I have even paid a higher price (like $50-60) to fly on one major over another because of issues of the time. For example, In 1997, not long after the TWA 800 disaster, they offered a $50 lower fare vs another major I did choose, so I chose the other major (CO). I would say I would pay 10-15% more for using a major vs. an LLC or one major over another on longer flights, maybe 20-30% more on a shorter flight. I would also balance the prices as to if the major offered more frequent and reliable service, is a non-stop, or in/out of airports more convenient at both ends of the flight.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:38 am

As for the humor in the safety briefing..

That's pretty much the only time when I would welcome it. Anything that holds the attention of the pax for those brief minutes. Much more than that and it's all tourist fodder. I could be wrong, but I thought I'd read here that some people's flights on WN were chock full of this stuff. In any case, I still wouldn't opt for the cheaper WN fare, unless I was guaranteed one of the Shamu craft as I am a big fan of orcas and of (the unfortunately long-dead) Shamu himself.
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:40 am

If I had a choice I would pay EXTRA for a LCC, because I like to reward them for their efficient, friendly service. And the meal service...... well, I just buy a sandwich at the airport..... On mainline carriers the mealservice is nothing more then a plastic breadroll anyway... And you pay 50% more for that flight? Stupid....
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:12 am

Based on what I have read, the Europeans are letting the LCCs get away with too much. In the states, the LCCs have a much better product than the legacy carriers, for less money in a lot of cases.

Since I am most familiar with TZ, you can check in on-line, get your seat assignment and never stand "in queue" except security and the jet bridge. Except for flights less than one hour, there is IFE. We are required to provide service IND-MDW, our shortest mainline flight. Except during certain holidays and on full flights, there is not much pressure to check carry-ons. Last minute fares are the same, no Saturday stay. If the flight is cancelled, arrangements will be made to get you to your destination, later flights or another airline. From what I hear, customers are happy with the points/award program. Obviously I cannot use it. Customers can check their bag to their destination and get their return ticket on the outbound flight.

It is generally not the airline, but the passenger that make travel experiences "stressful." If you are running to the plane to get a "good seat," all I can suggest is to show up earlier.

So there is my plug for ATA, but most of these things are pretty much standard in the LCC market in the states. Some do more, some less, but LCCs in Europe sound like a nightmare based on what has been said here.

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:23 am

The product on B6 and F9, I would wager, is far superior to alot of what the majors offer, for a higher price. On F9's longer segments you can get a wrap. On the same length of segment, you'll get peanuts on Delta.

Delta: uncomfortable, and sometimes dirty aircraft (737s), F9 and B6, very comfortable aircraft, clean, and with PTVs in every seat. Delta could REALLY use a cabin interior upgrade. And WN has better seat pitch!


As far as I'm concerned, you can bash LCCs all you want but quite a few of them offer a superior product to the majors. WN could use an interior update too, with PTVs, and they have batted that idea around, but they'd have to justify the cost in it....and they may not need to. Their flight attendants and employees are friendly and humourous, the pilots approachable, and actually TALK to you inflight.....WN already has a superior product, even with coke and peanuts, than some of the majors.


business class? Who the heck needs business class for a 2 hour flight?

[Edited 2004-04-15 19:25:46]
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:28 am

If the difference was more than a few bucks, I wouldn't transfer from a LCC. I mean, they don't fly 12 hr sectors anyway, so just buckle up and enjoy!  Big thumbs up

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Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:32 am

ChiGB1973, I would agree with you that EuroLCCs are less serviceminded than US ones. At some Ryanair airports, it's very much like herding cattle into the slaughterhouse. Muuuuuu!!!

Forget it, I'll pay a bit more to get my seat. Call me lazy... And let's not forget that BA and SK give me miles, which FR does not.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:40 am

As the LCC greatest champion on this web site I have been surprised at how little people will pay extra for a legacy airline.

In Europe I find LCC more convieniant for me the the legacy carriers because I live near Stansted and the schedule is more suitable for me then the other carriers (earling morning departures and late evenings returns). Ironically I would pay more for a LCC then a legacy carrier!!!



 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:28 am

I've never flown on a LLC but that's probably because of where I live: BOS.
We do have more choices for LLC nowdays but the fares would have to be significantly lower to make up for lost FF miles or extra transportation costs.
 
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:41 am

It is important to keep in mind that there are more LCC's than Southwest and Ryan air. Quite a few LCC's do permit one to reserve seats. There are other things to consider besides price. Schedule, for one might be a $50 factor. Ground service is another. If a particular airport only has 2 counters open to deal with 200+ pax, the line can be quite long, regardless of the airline.
The fact that the airline is or is not a LCC can often be secondary.


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Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:43 am

I have never flown a LCC and, hopefully, I never will.

Unless the asking price is way too high (i.e. my left kidney or kinky sexual favours
for the luggage handlers) I will always fly a legacy carrier. And, so far, the asking price has never been too high.

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Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:00 am

Unless the asking price is way too high (i.e. my left kidney or kinky sexual favours
for the luggage handlers) I will always fly a legacy carrier. And, so far, the asking price has never been too high


Bit of a shame you're not open to certain LCCs like AirTran. They're a LCC, but one can barely tell the difference. They have seat reservations, brand new (and lovely) planes, comfy seating in all classes, and decent scheduling. To Florida from MKE, I'd rather fly them than USAir regardless of who is cheaper! The only differences are the flexibility to purchase either round trip or one way without penalty and no penalty or uber-expensive fare for last minute purchases. I bought a ticket to EWR with less than 24 hours notice and it cost me the same as if I'd bought it weeks in advance. To my knowledge, not many legacies do that.
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:30 am

I have never flown a LCC and, hopefully, I never will.

Unless the asking price is way too high (i.e. my left kidney or kinky sexual favours
for the luggage handlers) I will always fly a legacy carrier. And, so far, the asking price has never been too high.

Tony




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Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:51 am

Mriya,

(good user name BTW, I love that beast!!!!!!)

I usually fly long-haul (mainly transatlantic, did a couple of transpacific last year too). Usually, any shorter hops that I do are part of a longer trip, hence it's natural
to book these shorter hops on the same airline too. As a result of my long-haul
travels, I have Gold status both on AC and AA. This allows me to have free
upgrades (AA), free lounge visits (any StarAlliance flight), fast check-in, sometimes priority through security, priority boarding, etc.

After you've experienced that for a bit, having to wait in line to check-in, then wait in line for security, then sit in a loud area at the airport, on seats which look as if
somebody has barfed on them, with lots screaming kids next to you, then get on the
plane last and find no space in the overhead bin, because the family who
are sitting next to you decided that they do need to carry five pieces of hand
luggage each (hey, it's the baby's nappies and food; they crew do have to let them
have it, don't they?), becomes a total nightmare.

So, no, thank you. I'll do what I've always done and fly legacy carriers. Travel
can be pretty stressful as it is. This is my way of making it a bit more pleasant.

I'm sure that for some people LCC carriers work, especially given the destinations
they fly to or the airport that it's closest to where they live. I'm not one of them.

...and when in the past I wanted to book something at the last minute I used my
miles and flew business class.

Regards,

Tony

PS Having said all this, I wouldn't mind flying AirTran; once at least. Those
AirTran 717s do look cool at BOS  Big thumbs up
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:00 am

What an absurd question, particularly here in the US, where any difference in service levels on coach fares is essentially non-existent. Flying an LCC in coach is no different from flying a legacy carrier in the same class.

Now, for business or first class travel, the differences are greater, but with the lower cost of J/A-class fares on those LCCs that have them, it more than makes up the difference in service levels. And since only YX offers First class service as an LCC (and even that is changing), for select city pairs there is a First Class option at LCC rates.

I've no idea what things are like outside the US.
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:09 am

I try to fly as cheaply as possible, but would pay more to avoid flying unsociable hours; other than that, I'm flexible.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:12 am

I've paid over $100 before to fly Delta over Southwest down to Florida...I would do it again too. The simple reason is that on Delta, I have Medallion status, so I get some perks such as preferred check-in and pre-boarding, plus bonus miles, plus the possibility to upgrade to F. That's worth it for me.

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:23 am

DeltA,


And that also depends on where you're flying from. I mean, if you're flying to Florida from SLC, it would not be wise to fly WN for that length of time. You're better off getting on a major with a better chance of IFE and meal service inflight. Though, dont bet on the meal service, I got a 3.5hr DL flight coming up and only first class gets a meal.  Yeah sure But at least I get a movie and a widebody airplane.

But for short hops that wouldnt give you much service anyway, nor a meal, there really isnt much difference between what the majors offer, and what WN offers.




And an off-topic question. Is F9 even really a LCC after all? You know, they're consistently more expensive than their competition.... Confused
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:26 am

Actually this question really doesn't apply too much to me because EWR does not have a large "fortess" of LCCs. Even when I have checked from nearby airports, the majors are usually cheaper.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:32 am

I will never fly on an LCC. I flew Peoplexpress once in the '80s and begged my father to send me back to school on TWA.

I fly NW, CO, KL and their partners. That's it. I am Platinum Elite+ on NW, so why would I choose to fly on an LCC?
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:33 am

I would pay up to 25% more of the LCC price to fly on a real-carrier. I dont like companies that take advantgae of me so I think that 25% more than LCC fare is fair to me, the consumer.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:34 am

DeltAirlines and Dtwclipper,

Amen to that. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:36 am

Aloha727200;

But for short hops that wouldn't give you much service anyway, nor a meal, there really isn't much difference between what the majors offer, and what WN offers.

I agree with you. I fly to YUL from YHM and YYZ frequently. Now that Jetsgo is offering hourly shuttle service, I cannot think of a single advantage that Air Canada offers over Jetsgo. If anything you can buy a snack on Jetsgo but if the Air Canada flight offers only the peanuts then that's all you get.
Any Air Canada fans care to tell me what I am missing?

PS I am just a simple passenger with no connections to any of these airlines.

PPS: On long haul flights,it is a whole different story. Major carriers would definitely be my choice.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:42 pm

I base my air travel purchase decision upon rational factors- schedule, fare, comfort, respect, safety, flexibility. Southwest is nearly always the first choice, for all of these reasons.

For long-haul, of course, I am compelled to use other carriers (most frequently, AA) by the Wright Amendment restrictions. AA is a perfectly adequate airline, but the "distinctions" in service (especially since AA instituted their untouted Less Room Throughout Coach program) have faded to irrelevance, and the additional time, cost and disruption of having to use DFW over DAL are substantial disincentives.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:54 pm

If I had to get there and the only option was double fair on a major or SWA, I would pay double or drive. If I had other LCC choices, AirTran Jet Blue, I would take them. I didn't grow up in a barn and I'm not flying one again.
 
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:33 pm

SNATH:

Thanks! She looked even sexier when carrying Buran  Smile

I've had the screaming kids and "but these don't count as carry-ons, dont they?" deal on legacy carriers, but my AirTran flights have been very quiet.

On one legacy flight, I was behind some balding guy who somehow concluded that because he had so few hairs left, he had no need to wash his head. At the base of what hairs he had left there were GOBS of extremely stinky grease- I could smell it for the whole eight hour flight. It was absolutely disgusting. Thusly, you don't always get what you pay for on the legacies. Granted, I'm mostly promoting the classiest LCC around (AirTran) as WN is too no-frills for me.

I'm sure if I had a bunch of miles racked up I would opt for a legacy over LCC as well.
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RE: How Much Extra Would You Pay To Avoid A LCC

Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:32 pm

Hey Mriya,

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that when flying a legacy carrier you
totally avoid the screaming kids (faaaaaaar from it). However, I can at least
avoid them at the airport (by going to the lounge, which is usually quiet and
I personally haven't had any screaming-kid problems there). And, by boarding
early, you do not have to deal with them when you're getting to your seat.

I'm sure some LCC, like AirTran, are fine. But, something to keep in mind, is
that I lived in the UK for 11 years and known many people who fly LCC
there (easyJet and Ryanair). And, at least one of my friends would rather
give his left kidney than fly them again. I suppose they are the pits compared
to some LCC in the US, but I can't help having formed a really really bad
image about them.

Tony
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