Leneld
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Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:01 am

Would a west coast hub do well for Jetblue out of SLC?
 
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:03 am

Would a west coast hub do well for Jetblue out of SLC?

They probably wouldn't want to go head-to-head with DL.

"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
 
Leneld
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:07 am

But hasn't Delta downsized it operation there while handing over most routes to skywest?
 
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:20 am

About three months ago, in a public speech, JetBlue CEO Neeleman downplayed any expansion out of SLC.

He said then that he wouldn't add SLC/LAX, because he saw no point in competing directly with Southwest on the route.

Of course, things can change.

cheers

mariner

ps: he actually said "no more SLC/LGB" because of SWA's SLC/LAX - but I'm not sure how to edit what I wrote.

[Edited 2004-04-16 22:22:47]
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:20 am

I think DL has downsized there more out of facing the reality that the population of SLC is not a viable one to support the hub operation that it had, rather than a downsizing as a need to cut costs or reallocate a/c elsewhere like the case in DFW. So basically, yeah, Jetblue doesn't want to go head to head w/ what's left of DL at SLC with what little market there is to go after.
 
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:33 am

That hub operation at SLC has done just fine since the 1987 WA takeover.


The problem is the current economy, which has a direct effect on air travel. Alot of hubs still are not back to pre-sept. 11 levels.


SLC is a perfect location for a hub, it has facilities, it has growing O&D, it has an extensive feeder network bringing further traffic into it. The problem, really, is the economy, and delta's mounting money losses. It wasnt just SLC that got trimmed, there were downsizes all across delta's network.


An opportunity has opened up and B6 would do alright making SLC a focus city, but they have WN AND DL to go up against, and despite the downsizes, Delta still owns SLC, and owns the west. WN is a formidable challenge, but Delta is still a bigger threat. Where WN connects in LAX DL has direct flights and pax like that. But WN's lower fares tend to balance it out.
 
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:05 am

When the Embraer 190s come in, you'll see more expansion in markets that otherwise might not justify A320 with frequency. The B6 model is frequency where it can stimulate traffic.

Also, let's not forget Neeleman lead Morris Air predecessor to WN SLC operation so he is quite familiar with SLC market  Big grin

B6 has a list of potential new markets and city-pairs it's just trying to prioritize them and bring online the areas that would add to the OPERATING MARGIN that the shareholders have grown accustom too!  Smile $$$
 
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:21 am

They not only don't want to face Delta Connection (Delta no longer flies to SLC do they  Smile/happy/getting dizzy ). But they really don't want to get hammered by Southwest - Again (see Long Beach). SLC already has low fares, so it would be tough sledding.
 
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:42 am

But they really don't want to get hammered by Southwest - Again (see Long Beach).

What are you talking about? jetBlue has never been "hammered" by Southwest.

If you are referring to thier LGB-OAK/LAS/SLC services, which are now operating at lesser frequency than original, you are totally forgetting that they were introduced at such high frequency for the sole purposes of using up slots that, if they were not used, would have to be forfieted.
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RE: Jetblue And SLC

Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:55 pm

our markets are pretty much O/D traffic. I really don't see that much O/D in/out of SLC. geographically speaking though, yes SLC would be a good location for another focus city. only time will tell!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

~B6FA4ever

(don't forget...new services from JFK-BQN/STI/SDQ/SJC, BOS-OAK, and IAD-SMF starts this summer!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy)

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