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737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:52 am

I believe that this is a first for an airline... Maersk Air out of Denmark is offering 4 different seat classes on their 737-700s:

The "Small" fare can range from as low as US$84 for a 3 hour flight (i.e. Copenhagen to Madrid).

Small = 70 cm (27.3") pitch

Medium = 80 cm (31.2") pitch - Price: Small fare + 200 DKK ($32)

Large = 90 cm (35.1") pitch - Price: Small fare + 400 DKK ($64)

X-large = 90 cm (35.1") pitch + 90 cm (35.1") wide seat - Price: Small fare + 1400 DKK ($224)

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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:48 pm

I Wonder how many passenger seats they are having on their 737-700's with this seating arrangement?
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:46 pm

Small = 70 cm (27.3") pitch

Now that gives the word "small" a new meaning !!
 
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:58 pm

Actually their website says that the Small pitch is 29". Medium is 33", Large and Extra Large are 37". The metric numbers are evidently just roundings...

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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:43 pm

Thanks, but I'll pass on small, that would REALLY be too small.
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:04 pm

Yeah, they started that out just few weeks ago, I guess (I've been travelling a lot though so might have been longer).

70cm is guite bad! Although for me being 165cm (5'6") it would not be end of the world for me!

I think their longest flight at the moment is CPH-AGH 3h40min

http://www.maerskair.com/en/Travel+Services/The+new+Maersk+Air.htm
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:11 pm

I tried the new DM concept. It was actually really good. But I flew on ID tickets so I of course got one of the small seats. And I'm 196cm. But thank god it was only from CDG to PAR. But the service onboard is still very good IMO after they have become a LCC.  Big thumbs up Thumbs up for that.
 
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:39 pm

QIGuy24 - re: thank god it was only from CDG to PAR

Yeah - a really really short trip !

So how does it work if everyone on the flight wants to pay for a Fattie seat ? Do you have to wait for the tiny seats all to be sold before you can buy a bigger seat ? Sounds like a very stupid idea to me - I expect they'll go to all 29" pitch pretty soon.
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:39 pm

Qlguy24 - Is the service for each passengers the same, irrelevant of what "seat size" one purchases?
 
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:43 pm

JGPH1A

I was comparing it to the flight to AGH. And it's not that bad anyway. 1½ hour.. I have tried worse. Sitting in Martinair from AMS - MCO in a middle seat in economy.

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I don't know if the service is the same. I didn't really see what they got up front. I was sitting very far behind. But I don't think there is any difference at all.

And by the way does anyone know if they have the same procedures for their CRJ flights to ARN??
 
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:49 pm

QIGuy- I wasn't disbelieving you - did you spot your board and offpoint ? CDG to PAR ? Charles De Gaulle to Paris ? Kind of a short hop....
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:56 pm

JGPH1A

Oh shit!! Sorry! What I meant was BLL - CDG
Thanks for noticing  Big thumbs up But you are right. That would be a very short flight. landing in the middle of Champs Elysess. I don't know if I spelled correct  Big grin
 
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:07 pm

Qlguy24:

This X/M/L/XL concept is only for their 737-700 fleet not for CRJ's
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:13 pm

DABZF

Thanks for the info. But does that mean it is the same usual price calculations on the routes they are using their CJR's like they always had but only much lower fares now?
 
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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:25 pm

Maersk ponders future of CRJ fleet
Victoria Moores, London (19Apr04)

Danish carrier Maersk Air is mulling the future its five Bombardier CRJ regional jets, as the introduction of a new product concept pushes it towards expanding its Boeing 737-700 fleet.

A ten-strong Boeing 737-700 fleet currently forms the backbone of Maersk’s charter and scheduled operations. It operates four Bombardier CRJ200 regional jets on short and medium-haul links, while a fifth acts as a back-up aircraft. Maersk has ten Boeing 737-500s, mainly on lease to other operators.

As competition in the Scandinavian market intensifies, Maersk has recently revamped and simplified its product; dividing its cabin by seat pitch to offer small, medium, large and extra large products, based on the cabin layout of the Boeing 737-700.

Newly introduced one-way fares in each class are based on a flat fee to upgrade from the ‘small’ tariff. Set fees now apply for changes, cancellations and all booking amendments.

Speaking at a press briefing in London today Maersk director sales and marketing Anne Von Glasow says: “The low cost entry into the market means that the yield is dropping – something had to be done.

“Some [carriers] are doomed not to survive in the future - in the Nordic market maybe three airlines will survive.”

The new product, launched on 28 March, has nearly quadrupled weekly booking levels, and is “going brilliantly,” according to Glasow. Maersk launched 12 new destinations at the start of the month and is poised to add a further ten this winter.

“We have leased a lot of aircraft and we are knocking at the door to get them back. We think that by introducing this new concept we will get the need for capacity up,” says Glasow. “We need more equipment for the winter season.”

She says the carrier is currently seeking further Boeing 737-700s to add to the fleet, and adds “we wants to get rid of [the CRJs] because they have a much higher cost per unit than Boeing”.

But a Maersk spokesman stresses the CRJ project “is not finalised,” adding that several options for the CRJ fleet are being evaluated.

Under the revamp Maersk has increased aircraft utilisation – up from 2,200 flight hours per year to 3,500 – leading to the re-employment of pilots and cabin crew, which were hit by cut backs two years ago.

While the majority of Maersk’s scheduled services operate on the Boeing 737-700, it still deploys Boeing 737-500s to the Faroe Islands because of operating restrictions which preclude the 737-700 on the routes. But Maersk says that it is working with Boeing on the issue and will use the -700 “as soon as we have solved the Faroe Island challenge”.

Source: ATI news

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RE: 737 With 4 Different Seat Class

Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:29 pm

But a Maersk spokesman stresses the CRJ project “is not finalised,” adding that several options for the CRJ fleet are being evaluated.

Oh yeah I forgot that we got one of their CRJ's her in Cimber now. So they have one less.

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