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Held Seats?

Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:43 pm

I am looking to fly to Brazil in December on Continental's non-stop from Houston, but when I put in the date of Dec 26 it says there are no available seats, or the fare comes out to 5 thousand dollars. Well I called CO reservations and they said the seats have not been released. What does this mean? Why are they holding them? American has open seats and I found a fare of 750 USD roundtrip IAH-MIA-GRU/IAH-DFW-GRU, should I go ahead and buy that, or should I wait for CO to release their seats? I was also told by reservations that this is done for many latin american destinations during holidays, why? Can someone shed some light on this for me?
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RE: Held Seats?

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:07 am

NOBODY HAS A CLUE as to what is going on here???
 
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RE: Held Seats?

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:52 am

Sorry, that I can't help you 767-300ER, I can only add some of my own experiences:

One month ago, I tried to get a Finnair Flight NRT-HEL (part of a RTW ticket)in September. And guess what, the friendly lady in my travel agency told me, that either all September flights are already fully booked or held in my particular booking class.
Today, I looked up the AY flights once again and there were free seats on every single September date!

Getting back to your topic about Latin America flights: I booked EZE-LIM-CUZ (also as part of my RTW trip, beginning of August) on LAN. Once again booking class "L" (which is the one I need) is marked C on all daily Lima-Cuzco flights with the exception of one, which leaves at 0600 and does a stop in Arequipa, which is the one I am currently booked on. Because of the fact that I cannot take a direct connection flight to Cusco in the afternoon upon my arrival in Lima at approximately noon, I am forced to spend a night there.

So how are my chances, that they will open up these closed flights (just like AY) in "my" booking class on LAN???
 
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RE: Held Seats?

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:56 am

Doesn't "held seats" mean that there are seats that are held for travel agency etc. but if they don't sell them in due time then they are released????
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RE: Held Seats?

Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:03 am

767-300ER,
I just spoke to my contact at CO, who has the scoop...
CO routinely closes all Latin America flights between 15Dec and 15Jan to the general public, while they sort out allocations for their top Latin American tour operators and wholesalers. Because demand during this period ALWAYS exceeds supply, the operators and wholesalers are required to pay a premium and purchase the seats upfront. Once this has been done, CO opens up the rest of the flight to the general public. Normally by May 1st.

Hope this helps.

(Edited to update correct information)

[Edited 2004-04-21 23:16:41]
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TedStriker
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RE: Held Seats?

Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:13 am

"DABZF- Doesn't "held seats" mean that there are seats that are held for travel agency etc. but if they don't sell them in due time then they are released????"

Not sure how other markets operates, but in the UK airlines will allow tour operators / travel agents to have an allocation of seats. If these are not sold within a set number of days before travel they are given back to the airline and put on general sale. However is very difficult to believe that ALL the inventory is being held back.

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