KRISSW
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George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:53 am

My wife and I are going to Las Vegas Flying from Orlando with Continental with connection at Houston. We have 45 minutes between flights isn't this a bit tight timewise or do any of you good people know the airport and agree if its easily done.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:56 am

If you're mainline you won't have any problems. I've made connections through IAH in far less time. Just hope that your flight isn't late getting in.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:58 am

As large as Intercontinental (I can't call it Bush, gives me shivers) is, 45 minutes will be enough. Some gates can be quite a haul...going from the high E's to the C's for example...or even worse, the B's, is a little stroll. That amount of time is ok though. Just don't stop for coffee!!
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:08 am

Thankyou very much for the replies we land at C and depart from C so should be ok
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:21 am

You will have no problem making your connection. I have had 35 min connections where I have landed from EWR and arrived at the E gates and my flights to TUS go out of B. I barely make it but going from mainline to mainline you will be fine. Just hope that they don't have you taxi around the airport for 35min like they always seem to have us do on my flights from EWR.

Can anyone explain why the taxi time to the gate is so long at IAH. I've never taxied for such a long time at any other airport.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:27 am

FlyBoyAZ,

I have to agree can not use that word! Just Like National (DCA)..I will NOT say that name!
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:43 am

That's too funny...I do the same thing with DCA too...hehe  Laugh out loud
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:51 am

Usually, Continental is good about parking close to connecting gates ( I know it may not be deilberate, but it works).

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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:07 am

As a Houstonian, I can attest that generally most references to our larger airport by the citizenry, flight crews, news media, et al has become "Bush...". Sure, there are some holdouts for "Intercontinental" or "IAH". But it's obvious which is easier to say.

However, life for you guys must really be a chore to be so worried about such trivial things as saying "Bush" or "Reagan". This coming from someone who voted for Bubba in '96.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:11 am

Hey Vector, I'm a fellow houstonian as well.....Long live Intercontinental!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:19 am

If you're landing on 8R/26L, it's going to be around 30 minutes of taxi time...it's way the hell out there! Big grin

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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:22 am

Not only are pax complaining of the taxi time, but residents as well are complaining of low-flying aircraft......

How does CO feel about the long taxi?
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:24 am

I think the airport in Bagdahd was called Saddam Hussein International. Why name an airport after one person when millions can use it? Heathrow, O'Hare, Roissy, Chek Lap Kok, Narita, Vaanta, Fumincino are all villages where the airport was built. Bush? Reagan? Kerry?
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:28 am

Thanks Homer71 for the map,
I guess it is 8R/26L that I was talking about. On both of my EWR-IAH flights we landed about 15min early and still managed to arrive at the gate about 10 min late. When I have arrived on COEX we came in on the runways that are in section 6. Sorry I don't know the numbering of IAH's runways.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:28 am

While I don't live in Houston now, i'm originally from Houston as well and I still call it Intercontinental.
Usually when I go back to visit family, I hear most Houstonians call it Intercontinental as opposed to Bush.

Like CougarAviator said- Long Live INTERCONTINENTAL!!!!!!!!!!


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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:31 am

I noticed as I was driving up to Terminal D two weeks ago, there was a sign saying "Mickey Leyland - IAB", whatever happened to people calling it that?
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:33 am

IAH is probably the worst airport in the country for connecting passengers that I have experienced... Remember to wear good walking shoes if you ever connect there.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:34 am

Native call it the International terminal.....Mickey Lelyand does nothing for me.....It's all Intercontinental Terminal A, B, C, D/International..........

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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:51 am

I don't care who the airport is named for, I call it what pilots call it. DCA is "National" and IAH is either just "Houston" or "Houston Intercontinental." Some airports I use the names for, especially older ones like Hopkins or O'hare, but as for the newly named airports like Newark...man screw calling it "Liberty."
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:01 am

LAX is being re-named as 'Patriot Uninational' in spring 2005. O'Hare gets the luckier moniker of Bin Laydoff Intercontinental in support of UA.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:18 am

I think the airport in Bagdahd was called Saddam Hussein International. Why name an airport after one person when millions can use it? Heathrow, O'Hare, Roissy, Chek Lap Kok, Narita, Vaanta, Fumincino are all villages where the airport was built. Bush? Reagan? Kerry?

Hate to call you out, Spike, but O'Hare was named after a person - Lt. Cdr Edward O'Hare, a naval aviator who was the first American ace of World War II.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:20 am

Damn. I meant Newark anyway.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:07 am

Just a side note here, not a political one, but a note:
IAH is named for George Herbert Walker Bush (not the current president), the 41st President, who was a congressman from Houston, brought several programs to the city in the late 60s and early 70s, and still maintains his main home in Houston today. During his presidency he brought the G-7 summit and Republican Convention to Houston, and he and his wife sit on many boards in the city, including MD Anderson Cancer center. Now granted he is still alive, but no longer in office. I do not know why it is hard to believe it would be named after him. Much Like Llyod Bentsen got his own Freeway in Houston (though no one uses that one much either) and Hobby got his own airport. The bigger surprise to me is Ted Stevens in Alaska, as he is still a sitting member of congress.

I don't know when the idea of naming things after those still alive came about, but we have Jimmy Carter subs, and Reagan Airports etc

I agree most locals still call it Intercontinental or just 'The Big Airport', then their is 'Hobby'.

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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:09 am

Spike-

I'll call you out on Fiumicino and Roissy as well; the official name of the former is Aeroporto Leonardo da Vinci di Fiumicino, while the latter is Aéroport Charles de Gaulle. IAH was never really named after a place (aside from just "Houston Intercontinental Airport") since there wasn't much there when it was built.

I think y'all meant 8L/26R in reference to the new runway. And I suspect it's seen heavier-than-normal use since its opening because 8R/26L and 9/27 have each been closed for reconstruction since. I have to admit that landing on 26R is pretty weird -- it almost looks as if you're going to be landing on FM 1960. But the separation of the new runway from the other two will permit three separate arrival streams in poor weather, which Houston sees its share of.

Terminal D originally opened as Terminal IAB (for International Airlines Building) but was redesignated as Terminal D once the plans for Terminal E got underway -- it would have been confusing to have the terminals designated as A, B, C, IAB, E. Terminals D and E stand where the original airport master plans called for a larger Terminal D. As for the Mickey Leland name for the international terminal, after Houston Congressman Mickey Leland died in a plane crash while on a fact-finding mission in Africa, there was a proposal to name the entire airport after him. This prompted one Houston City Councillor to say something along the lines of, "We might as well just call it N-word International." Needless to say, he was not re-elected.

Houstonians probably don't mind calling it "Bush" since the first President Bush made his home in Houston for many years and still spends several months a year there. It's not quite like DCA given that Reagan was from California...
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:16 am

BTW, the runway that takes a long time to taxi from is 8L/26R

yes indeed it takes a long time to taxi to the gate from 8L/26R!!
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:23 am

Roissy was indeed a village (and still is) as is/was Fumincino (sp?). Heathrow has now been swallowed up as has been Vaanta. Bush will hopefully die in time.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:23 am

Sometimes I wonder why E is considered a completely different terminal. If the airport went along with the previous terminals, it would all be one big D. I know that they're building a new FIS building between D and E right now. Will both D and E feed their passengers into this new immigration building?
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:41 am

My bad, it is 8L/26R that is located in another area code...

I call IAH "Bush" because it's just easy to say - one syllable and save your breath.  Smile
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:11 am

Don't forget San Jose - Norman Y. Mineta and Omaha's Eugene Eppley.

Hell... why name anything after anyone? (What a rediculous argument this is)
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:30 am

I lived near Houston for a while in College Station, but I remember most Texans calling it "Intercontinental". Sounds much better than Bush IMO.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:05 pm

Rwy 8R/26L is, and will remain closed for most (if not all) of 2004 as it's being rebuilt from the dirt up. Rwys 15/33LR are used mainly for departure while 8L/26R and 9/27 are mainly arrivals. Taxi times from 8/26 average 10-18 minutes to south side gates depending on landing direction and taxi route given. Given a choice, Pilots would obviously prefer 9/27, but ATC often has other ideas.
As for the D/E matter, as I understand it, all FIS functions will be combined in the new E building. Non-Continental international arrivals will cross over from D.
The City of Houston will never do it, but I think it would be less confusing if the IAH terminal I.D.s were changed from A-E to 1-5, while the concourses remained A-E. (similar to ORD). I've found that most arriving passengers seem to think E is a separate building from C, when in fact C, D, E are, more or less, one big interconnected structure.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:16 pm

Given a choice, Pilots would obviously prefer 9/27, but ATC often has other ideas.

Just an FYI on that. The reason ATC doesn't like to use 09 is because of the crossing traffic. This, especially during departure banks, can slow down departure because they have to stagger the arrivals and departures. When on the east configuration traffic departing the 15's will and do climb into the approach path for 09 so to keep the departure moving 08L is favored for arrivals. That is why the arrival rate drops from an 88 to a 64 rate.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:30 pm

I just call it Intercontinental out of Habit.

If IAB was indeed renamed to Terminal D, why is the sign still there!?

Also, when I was in Terminal D, they appeared to be doing some sort of renovation. Terminal D is my favorite terminal, it really gives an "international" feel to the airport as the first thing you see as you approach is the "KLM 744 Tail/BA 772 Tail" followed by the Lufthansa then a pinch of the Air France Tail.

I took a detour into Terminal E while waiting for my departure in D, Terminal E is very nice and "open aired" but the atmosphere D creates is much better than that od E, I think.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:17 pm

As a Houstonian, I still can't call IAH "Bush". But then, there are plenty of us that aren't proud of the fact that both Bushes are from here!
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:25 pm

Heard somewhere it will be renamed M&M in December.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:50 am

"As a Houstonian, I still can't call IAH "Bush". But then, there are plenty of us that aren't proud of the fact that both Bushes are from here! "


its much easier for me to say Bush. IAH works too.





As for transfer... as long as you are not going through customs.... transfers in houston are quick and speedy.
 
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RE: George Bush Intl

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:59 am

Patriot Uninational has to be the worst name for an airport I've ever heard... What the hell are they thinking?

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RE: George Bush Intl

Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:55 pm

The bigger surprise to me is Ted Stevens in Alaska, as he is still a sitting member of congress.

Not really, You should see the amount of funding he generates for this state.

Actually they should have named the airport for Ann his wife that got killed in a lear crash on the field in the 1970's. Ted got bloodied up but walked out of the crash.

In any case I do agree that you generally shouldn't name public facilities after people that are still alive.

I still refer to the airport here as Anchorage Internationa, rather then Ted Stevense Anchorage International Airport.
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RE: George Bush Intl

Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:02 pm

Yah, of all the people that have stuff named after them, its always the airports where the honoree is still living! (Bush, Stevens).

Who wants to bet money that Little Rock or Northwest Arkansas Will soon be renamed Bill Clinton Field sometime soon??????  Nuts
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RE: George Bush Intl

Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:28 pm

Taxi time from 8L/26R is not 30 min, it is about 10 min for most gates, and due to a recent short term shut down of one of the taxiways, it is now about 15-17 min if you are at a distant gate. Continental have finished the last few days for example with roughly 90% on time rating, therefore if it was taking 30 min to taxi in, they would not be achieving such numbers.

As for the crosswind arrivals on 27, it was fun to watch yesterday, the pilots were fighting their way in. I got some good video footage of them all crabbing in yesterday

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RE: George Bush Intl

Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:38 pm

Artsyman, I know I was embellishing a little with the 30 min. crack.

Are the widebodies from Europe using 27 yesterday, or are they splitting it with 26R as well?

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RE: George Bush Intl

Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:18 am

They were using mainly 27, but as mentioned above, the odd one makes it over to the other side of the state on 26. Despite what many say, the widebodies will land on 27 more or less every time unless weather prohibits it.

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