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US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:16 am

When did the major US carriers start flying to CDG, therefore replacing ORY. I know that AA, DL and CO were there for a while, but how about TW, PA, UA, NW and US; what about them?
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:52 am

I think AA left sometime in 1999 or 2000, but I may be off by a year or two. I know they were one of the last ones to leave. CO had left for CDG several years before.
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:58 am

American was the last major US airline to move from ORY to CDG, and did so, in 2000. Delta, Continental, and Tower Air all operated from ORY. Tower never moved to CDG, but CO, then DL moved as each formed a partnership with Air France.

United, Northwest, and US Airways, the other three US carriers that serve Paris, always, to my knowledge, flew out of CDG.

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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:07 pm

TW and PA moved when CDG opened in the early 70's
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:43 pm

I don´t think that PA ever moved to CDG, as far as I can remember PA flew out of ORY until its demise in 1991, so I think only TW moved to CDG after it had opened. But I´m not 100% sure, maybe some of the Pan Amers around can give any info on that?

TWA operated a European hub in Paris, while Pan Am had it in Frankfurt and a routeswap between the two carriers in the 70´s included that PA had cancelled service to Paris, while TW abandoned Frankfurt, only for both carriers to return to either cities in the late 70´s or early 80´s.
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:18 pm

USAir operated PHL-ORY from their launch in early 1992 until 1995/96? I know they switched to CDG before their rebranding as "US Airways" in Feb 1997.

The flights operated as US1789 and US1778 (my username), using Orly South Terminal.
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:40 pm

Here's a quick summary of what I know:

American- they began flying to Paris in 1985 and moved all flights to Orly on October 1, 1999.

Braniff- flew to Orly when they began flying to Paris from Boston in 1979.

Continental- flew to ORY from 1989 when they began HOU-ORY until April 7, 1997.

Delta- flew to ORY from 1978 when they began flying ATL-ORY until April 7, 1997.

National Airlines- began serving MIA-ORY June 22, 1977 and the route went to Pan Am.

Northwest Airlines- was awarded Braniff's BOS-PAR authority. However I'm not sure if they served ORY or CDG. I know they were already at CDG as early as 1990, so I'm assuming that they never served ORY.

Pan Am- flew to ORY until 1975 when they had a route swap with TWA and ended service to Paris. When they resumed service to Paris in 1980 they began flying MIA-CDG (a route that they acquired with the purchase of National).

TWA- was the first U.S. carrier to make the move to CDG shortly after its opening. Until the 1990s was also the largest U.S. carrier at the airport with non-stop service to Boston, Geneva, Los Angeles, Munich, New York, Newark, St. Louis, Tel Aviv, Washington and Zurich at various times.

US Airways- see above.
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:21 pm

I used to fly to Orly back in 1996, 1997 and 1998. The place was a dumb, very similar to the worst aspects of Terminal 3 at Heathrow with added problems. Firstly there never seemed to be enough jetways, four times out of six our fully loaded 763 was at a remote spot. The customs facilities and immigration were always delapadated. Check in was a maze riviling anything I'd ever seen and the place had less directional signs then the new Airtrain. Still, it was closer to downtown Paris...
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:59 pm

I've checked ORY timetable and i didn't find any flight to the U.S.A.

Charters maybe ?
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:10 pm

American did move from ORY to CDG in 1999.

There was one French airline that still flew ORY-LAX-PPT, however I am not sure if it was Air Liberté or AOM. Anyone has info on that?
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:25 pm

US Airways flyto Paris, cant recall which airport though, im talking to a US co pilot and he was in Paris at the weekend
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RE: US Airlines @ ORY

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:37 pm

ORY-LAX-PPT is operated by Corsair. Only carrier flying from ORY (Southwest of Paris) to the USA.
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