schweizair
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No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:52 am

When your flight lacks a PTV, what do you do to pass time? It never bothers me. Sometimes, the carrier has a pretty good in-flight magazine. AA is not bad. When flying nonstop to Europe, I just download some e-books onto my PDA, 16 MB of memory! It does take a long time to do that but hey, I'll be reading for hours. And of course, it helps to have games downloaded to my PDA. I also jumped for joy the day it was possible to make MP3 CDs. Now I can listen to my whole U2 collection on two discs instead of seven! Enya and Siobhan Donaghy are also among my favorites. When I ate up all the memory on my PDA, a good Stephen King paperback always helped too.
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:10 pm

I listen to my 10gig Ipod.
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:46 pm

In that case I like to do it "old school." I read! Even better if it's a book about an airplane disaster to spook the already nervous passingers next to me. Big grin Yes, I'm going to hell, but all my friends will be with me!

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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:00 pm

it would actually bother me not having a PTV. i get really ansy in my seat if i have nothing to do. i'm not the biggest reader (books that is). anyways, what i would do is stock up on my gossip magazines (people, US Weekly, etc) and read those...Also Game Boy becomes one of my best friends. Just get an RPG game that i know can take a few hrs of play time to beat. other than that it would be my personal music...and the other thing i do is chit-chat w/ the working F/A's.

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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:02 pm

TVs on airplanes? Why?

Of course I ask why about PDAs and Ipods as well. I happily read a book or watch the world pass by out the window.
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:04 pm

Schweizair: books etc are fine for a shorter flight, but on 14/15 hour flights a PTV makes a hell of a difference.
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:13 pm

I've become addicted to PTV's. I was on a widebody that had them go inoperative just prior to a 3.5 hour flight and I was in withdrawal after wheels up!


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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:28 pm

No TV, thats a problem to me. It's why I fly on Jetblue now. It makes the flight go by quicker, keeps all those kids quiet, keeps the people who are afraid of flying calm, and I don't have to squint my eyes to view a screen that on other aircrafts will be 4 rows in front of me. Reading is fine, but I can't deal with the silence.
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:38 pm

I try to read or study.... I also like to listen to some music. The last 10 or so flights that I have taken were all either too early or were the last flight at night after a very heavy working day so I've been sleeping a lot in them. So tired that I have even skipped the meal service!

And that for me is quiet an outstanding thing to happen! Big grin

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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:35 am

Now that I'm alittle older I do the same as most, I just sit and either read the in-flight meal or chat with the cabin crew. But when I was younger I would be full of so much adrenaline and exitement that I would just buzz around the whole aircraft. I remember how I used to annoy people by jumping over their legs constantly. The cabin crew didn't mind it too much as I was a kid. Oh the embarresment now that I look back  Laugh out loud
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:38 am

Now I can listen to my whole U2 collection on two discs instead of seven

ahh noises of the CFM's, one of my favorite relaxation tapes

no seriously as long as i have good food, a window seat, clear skies and a continental view i am more than happy.

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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:40 am

Reading is fun, and I do read a lot. But past the 3 hour mark I start getting antsy. I need something else to distract me. PTV is great. It requires very little concentration so works fine even if I'm tired and can't sleep.

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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:46 am

My God, not having access to PTV? The HORROR of it all !! How dreadful... Just the thought of having to "entertain" one's self for a finite period of time. What's this world coming to?
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:48 am

It's a funny subject! When I was working for UA in DUB in 1998 they sent us to MIA for a two week training. DUB-LHR-IAD-MIA..... LHR-IAD in first class and we got those portable dvd players...... I never used them... I was to busy reading all the magazines I just bought, or eating, drinking, and most of the time talking to all the other persons around us.... In 2000 I had a job that required me to fly to PHL from AMS every 2 weeks, and again I didn't miss it...... People are getting soooooooo spoiled, and I think that persons who can't live without a TV for a week are hopeless...... Enjoy life! There is so much more to do! Due to those flights, and talking a lot, I have good friends in the US, South Africa and Colombia ......... That stupid little screen for 8 hours can get you blind in the end, you know that?
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:59 am

I make no excuses. I'm from the wired generation, or actually I'm from a bit before that. But I'm an entertainment/information junkie.
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:04 am

20gig iPod, reading, and heck, mother earth presents the worlds best IFE outside your window! Have a glance at the scenery that passes underneath!

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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:08 am

PTV, what's that? I've never been on a flight in the US with PTV. The last flight I've been on with a PTV was a UA 777 3 years ago and I turned it off 30 minutes into the flight. So what do I do on flights with no PTV? The same I've always done: Read, sleep, talk. Works for me. My opinion is If you can't spend a few hours of your life without staring into a flickering glass panel then there's something serious happening with you and you should seek professional help  Smile
 
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:09 am

I do sometimes spend a few hours without staring into a flickering glass panel. In fact I do it everyday, when I sleep.  Big grin
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RE: No TV, No Problem

Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:29 am

Since I'm usually on a flight without the mini-idiot-box:
  • Sleep
  • Listen to music on the iPod
  • Read
  • Do some work on the laptop
  • Eat (if I've been fortunate enough to get an upgrade)
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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:32 am

    No TV? No problem. Plus I am usually working. Some passengers make for some awesome entertainment .  Smile

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    You can always tell too. Passengers that read, are usually the nicest and easiest to please. Sometimes the human factor does still win over technology.
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:46 am

    If I'm working than I can't really watch the tv. If i'm flying as a passenger I don't really care if I have the TV in front of me or not, I can always chat with the cabin crew, chat with seatmates, listen to music, look out the window or best part sleep!!!!!. I don't know why everybody is so gung ho about PTVs.
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:59 am

    No TV -- no problem for me. Flying is the only time I have in my busy life raising a young son to read or get caught up on sleep. I avoid flights and airlines with PTVs. If I have them I don't use them.
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:17 am

    Personally I would never choose an airline just because it had PTV - all other things considered. But I do have to say that I would prefer to have it than not have it. On a long flight, such as transcon US or across the pond to Europe, it is very handy and kills some of the boredom. Sure I can handle reading a book but I'd prefer to watch TV. I think it is the choice that I like having.
    That doesn't make me a bad person, just a normal one.

    I will say that to Europe, most flights from the USA are night flights anyways. In this case, the PTV goes off and I try to catch some shuteye. It is the way home that PTV is king.
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:43 am

    I agree that I'd rather have PTV's than not, so as to give a choice.

    esp when in a middle seat in Y class, then it becomes a necessity!!

    Most of my longhaul is with VS, who are phasing out some of their old IFE at the moment, and I have to say its disspointing when I get a plane with the "old" IFE rather than the newer ones.

    I guess its a case of once you have it, you dont want to go back............

     
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:03 am

    Ill put it this way.on a ten-hour flight on an a310 SVO-IAD in economy with no IFE really does suck-well except one time when i was next to a 9 year old russian kid(i was also 9 at the time).Oh did we have fun-and now as i look back on it,i realise just how much i had pissed off other passengers Big grin  Big thumbs up and still dont know why the hell did that one guy change the diaper of his baby at the seat-couldnt he at least of gone to the lav to do that?
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:06 am

    I've never been on a flight with PTVs. This is what I usually do on my flights...

    -Stare out the window
    -Listen to music on my 15GB mp3 player
    -Read
    -Sit back and relax...enjoy the fact that I can take it easy and that I'm going somewhere

    on longer flights I usually try to get out of my seat every few hours or so to get circulation moving and just to check out the cabin
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:07 am

    first: a beer or 2
    then: lunch
    then: watching out of the window, listening to 40gig iPod, more beer...
    then: reading

    movie or PTV, well, maybe, but not a reason for me to picl flight or airline. Movie must be good...

    But actually, to be honest, on my next flight, I might watch Airplane I and II on my notebook...lol
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:08 am

    Generally I do watch a film or 2,however on my last round tripo from HEL>PEK>HEL I never even switched the thing on. I was more than happy with my book,flowing champagne and my Sony TR1MP.

    PTV's are not everything,though many people think their life demends upon having them,.very sad Sad
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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:11 am

    Using my Jens of Sweden Mp3 player  Big thumbs up

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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:33 am

    PTVs, Ipods, techno-bollocks....jeez.

    I try talking to the flight attendants. Much more fun. Big grin
     
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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:42 am

    Turn my DELL Laptop on, kick back and relax...........
     
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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:50 am

    To PTV or not to PTV... that is the question! It seems that this has been a recent preoccupation for some on this forum recently. It's nice to see that there are some who aren't totally obsessed by it.

    Don't get me wrong. I love them. When VS first introduced PTV, I thought it was the greatest thing since IFE was first introduced back in the 70's. However, some on this forum behave has if the presence of PTV would be the sole determining factor as to which airline/flight they select.

    As I've previously remarked, most 20-somethings I observe on flights usually don't care about PTV. Whether it is IPOD, MP3 or CD players, they usually bring 9000 hours of music for a 10 hour flight.

    AVOD is without a doubt the latest obsession. Sure it's great, but remember when 707's flew 9 hours without so much as an audio system. Folks coped.

    Good for the folks who responded with outlooks other than the recent obsessed few who would boycott any flight without PTV.
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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:51 am

    PTV's are good, but I usually just leave it on the map. I also like to read and lsiten to some MP3 cd's.

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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:15 am

    for tourist a ptv can be useful. on mea 330 ptv even in economy there is a presentation of all the cultural sites of lebanon. and not only as a film. it's more like a web site, with different pages including text and images.
     
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    RE: No TV, No Problem

    Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:35 am

    - Listen to 15GB iPod
    - Turn on 17inch PowerBook, ultimate PTV Smile/happy/getting dizzy
    - Read some philosophy
    - Admire the model plane I just purchased in duty free
    - Peaking out the window
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    Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:47 am

    PTVs--great idea-the options allow good channel grazing - as they say--women want to see what is on..men want to see what else is on.... Unfortuantely, once you get use to 14 channels, they are not enough.....half the time the movies are bland, seen them or a chick flick I know I will have to watch again at home. They are far superior to the small isle screens, or cabin wall screens or worse... the hand held Sony units.
    Better yet...Load the lap top with AVI movies and TV shows and watch what I really want to see (Coupling and Trailer Park Boys)....then snooze, look out window...then channel surf.
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