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Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:28 am

The following will be playing on April 29, 2004 at 5 PM EST on the Travel Channel in the USA.

You'll see Art Brett(AAGOLD), Phil Derner Jr(BigPhilNYC), Matt Celmer(Candicas), Andy Martin (Skymonster) and myself on the show.

Check it out!
Mario

http://travel.discovery.com/schedule/weekly.jsp?channel=TRV&mm=4&dd=29&yyyy=2004&hhmm=1500

http://travel.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=107566&gid=0&channel=TRV

http://travel.discovery.com/schedule/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=107566&gid=0
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:30 am

Sweet, can't wait to see it again Big grin I'm suprised they didn't edit me and futt out hahaha.

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:50 am


Anyone know if this show will be aired in Canada?
I missed it last time too.

G
 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:06 am

thanks for the heads up! The Tivo is set and ready to go. At what point are you guys seen?
 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:23 am

Just don't forget to check local listings. I am not sure if it airs in Canada.

But check it out. I was seen in multiple appearances from start to finish, Art, Matt, Andy, Phil, and even Futterman and Dazed767 were seen in quick glimpses on the beach, right?

Cool show though!


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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:33 am

It's a shame that it isn't on in the UK! Discovery Flight would be the perfect location for it!
 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Sun Apr 25, 2004 4:42 am

I still have it on tape from the first time it aired. I was so jittery and (FINE, I'll say it) somewhat emotional-- Big grin--to see the whole gang and especially Concorde.

Absolutely a great souvenir. I'm not sure many people of the male gender can say they've seen Cederholm at 4AM. (That was a compliment  Laugh out loud).

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:13 am

Keep an eye out in the UK for Concorde: The FInal FLight"

The producer said there were 2 versions, a US one and an international one. So, she inferred that the movie would be shown elsewhere at some point.


By the way, for the guys that were in the show, did you get your copy?


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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:21 pm

Can anyone confirm a rumor that this will be playing soon in the UK on Discovery wings?

I can;t find any info online.

thanks
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:16 pm

Will this episode be reaired? The Discovery Network channels frequently reair or rebroadcast shows.
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:16 am

Will this excellent documetary be available in DVD format for sale?

I put the original broadcast on a tape, behind the October 24th NBC, CNN, ABC coverage stories. I plan to put all of this on my own DVD, including photage I shot with my digital camcorder of BOAF's final landing at IAD on October 14th of last year.
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:50 am

You know, I wasn't really impressed--it was more like a commercial for a product that wasn't available, anymore... Of course, I wasn't that big of a Concorde fan (having one been on it only once--and that was during it's last 60 days). I was kinda like 'much ado about nothing.' It's was a cool ride...but not the extraordinary experience everyone gushes about.

The special was OK. Unfortunatley for the spotters, they pretty much came across as geeks to most the public (I know, the room full of people I was in was practically laughing at guys standing around with radios waiting for a specific aircraft to take off). I think it's bit more acceptable pastime in Europe--at least, understood. And it could have been edited a bit better.

Glad to see some A.netters on there--even if they came across as a bit fanatical. Congrats.
 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:58 am

actually Greg, yours is the sole quasi negative review I have seen on this site as well as another.

In contrary to lots of other documentaries, where people are portrayed as "foamers", 100% of the feedback that I have experienced is that we weren't seen as geeks and it was a somewhat positive mark for aviation spotters in general.

I doubt its any more fanatical that the guy in a Mets or yankees hat or wearing a Lakers jersey. But spotting is it not well understood in the US, yes, I agree.

Also, I agree that it seemed like an ad. Only I didn't see it as an ad for Concorde but you could tell that BA was definitely trying to sell 777 and 747 frst class service. Holds no candle to Concorde.
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:24 am

Put it in context, Mirrodie..you only view it from an enthusiats perspective. My friends that watched it (and it looks great in HD if you have it) were a bit perplexed that folks actually stand at the end of a runway to identify a single aircraft. On the surface, it can appear a bit weird. These people are from a variety of professions outside aviation.

Sports is more widely accepted..and followed..and doesn't have the 'geek' stigma that spotting does (acutally quite the opposite). That was the point I was trying to make.

As far as Concorde, yes, I'm glad I burned those ff miles to do it...but I expected more. And in all fairness that was because I was so hyped about it by a couple of the trip reports on here.
Interesting? Yes.
Glad I did it? Absolutelty!
Do it again if I had the chance? Not likely....once was enough..and in all honesty..people will admit it's not nearly as comfortable as BA's first class offerings.

It was an interestng show. Nothing brilliant...nothing bad.

 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:28 am

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:38 pm

Greg,

In my part of the world the Concorde only came here a couple of times and I was simply over joyed to see the video Mario kindly sent to me. As was explained in the documentary most new things develop and get replaced over the years but this is the first time something has been terminated and there is nothing like an improved version even on the drawing boards. Consider yourself very privileged to have experienced the Concorde and to be there when history saw the final curtain drawn on a technology that has not been superseded. Just watching the video brought tears to my eyes let alone actually being there. Sure there are more important things in life but the Concorde was the only successful SST that man perfected and ranks high on the achievement list, along side landing a man on the moon which has not been done again either to date. The next big event will be the A380 and it doesn't matter where it is from because it is a major advance in the technology of flight (size of aircraft) and a change in the way we travel.

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:08 pm

I found the show lacking in certain things. It was very much an infomercial for BA.

Put it in context, Mirrodie..you only view it from an enthusiast perspective.
You really can't say that. I know at least one other person besides me who, before seeing the show, were scared to see how we'd be portrayed. Once I saw it though, it was cool, good shots of Concorde, good sound, too heavy of selling BA.

Only one foamerish line....."yeah, its cultish  Wink/being sarcastic" ouch.

My friends ... were a bit perplexed that folks actually stand at the end of a runway to identify a single aircraft. These people are from a variety of professions outside aviation. Besides patients, my colleagues in various professions also saw it but saw nothing weird about it.

Those friends have myopic minds it seems. I mean, I can appreciate how one can appreciate a sport. But I suppose some people can only see things one way.


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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:22 pm

Well, to be honest, I did feel that we came off as geeks, and you cna kinda see in my facial expression when filming that the fear was on my mind.

I had a bad haircut that dfay, and their filming of us made me look like shit. Using a fisheye lens right in my face making me look 30 pounds lighter....ugh. I should sue. lol

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:30 pm

Mario,

I caught the show tonight before I even read this thread. You guys came off great. I figured that the Concorde spotters would be on A.net, and I was right. You should be proud of the show.

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:32 pm

yes mario i got my copy of the tape.

you pretty much stole the show man. i'm seen in maybe 3 2 second-long shots. that's cuz i was there more than some of you...


I'm not sure many people of the male gender can say they've seen Cederholm at 4AM.

i don't know about that one futt. (sorry justin, had to!) Big grin
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Sat May 01, 2004 1:10 am

Well, if the people in it thought they came off as geeks....then enough said! I'd take that one to court!

BigPhil...we'll sue for 'diminished capacity'...and ask for a proper reshoot.
Oh..yeah..and a million dollars.
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Sun May 02, 2004 11:52 pm

well shit, if we are talking dollars and cents now, then call me Poindexter and add me to the payroll.

Personally, I think futterman came off as the most geeky.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Mon May 03, 2004 2:28 am

To me, the true 'geek' would come across on camera as socially awkward, young for his/her age, a bit immature maybe.
Which was certainly not the case in this documentary, quite the opposite in fact.

As for advertising, it was about BA retiring the aircraft, some views were expressed by at least one pax that are not the official BA line (certainly close to what most of us think privately though, at all levels), BA also provided full access.

The BA Engineering Manager interviewed was not a person who found doing this sort of thing came naturally, but in that job he got plenty of practice.

The BA man explaining what a part was for, in the hangar, was not a Concorde staff member, but he was in the Engineering Communications dept, so was escorting the camera crews around the hangar.
He and I worked together a lot on visits, mostly prior to 2000/2001 when there were fewer restrictions, when I told him he was in the film he was most surprised!

As for the flight experience, well I was on OAE's museum delivery flight to BGI, so got a 777 back.
Club seat, nice, plenty of room, more food than Concorde but not quite as good, OK though.
And PTVs.
You know what? I soon got bored, look at the flight tracker, watch a movie, read a bit, try to sleep (no chance), then a few hours later, check the tracker again.
'We've hardly f***** moved' was my only thought when checking the tracker after all that time.
So I know which way of traveling I preferred.
That's just me though, first two flights were BA 747 airtests, stall and all, then a DC-3, so perhaps I'm less tolerant to normal long haul flying than most.
 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Mon May 03, 2004 6:25 pm

Call me a geek. But it gave me plenty of satisfaction to be able to shoot these photos. It was the first time I saw Concorde in the air, and I'll never forget it.

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Great line by GDB . . . !
As for the flight experience, well I was on OAE's museum delivery flight to BGI, so got a 777 back . . .
I soon got bored, look at the flight tracker, watch a movie, read a bit, try to sleep (no chance), then a few hours later, check the tracker again.
"We've hardly f***** moved" was my only thought when checking the tracker after all that time . . . .


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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Tue May 04, 2004 10:41 am


Is it possible to get the show (or even clips) online?
We don't get that channel in Canada....and I don't have satellite.

Discovery Canada Channel doesn't seem to be picking up the show.

Any suggestions?

G
 
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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri May 07, 2004 3:08 am

Concorde: The Final Flight is on Discovery Wings at the moment in the UK, repeated later at 10pm, When I saw Mario I realised it was the show you've been talking about Big grin Looks like a great show, don't miss it guys.

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri May 07, 2004 6:05 am

I just watched it too.

Didn't think you came across as 'geeky'.

That girl Rachel is a member of Concordesst.com forums I believe.

Who were all the other guys, I saw you Mirrodie but couldn't work out who the others were as they didn't put captions up with the names of everyone that spoke - well not that I noticed anyway, but I did have my G/f moaning at me that she was missing Eastenders !!!!.  Angry

It did get a little boring though compared to other documantaries I've seen. They seemed to concentrate alot more on the famous people rather than the old girl herself, which really I was not that interested in what the rich and famous had to say.

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RE: Concorde, The Final Flight On April 29

Fri May 07, 2004 6:16 am

Personally, I think futterman came off as the most geeky.  Wink/being sarcastic

It's Futterman! Or maybe it's Futterman.  Big grin


And, no, I didn't get my copy, yet. Maybe I'll get in contact with the Travel Channel and see if I can dig something up.

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