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A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:08 am

It looks like everything is ready in Toulouse for the first assembly, after the three pieces of the fuselage, the first wings have arrived with "God save the Queen" playing in the assembly hall!
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SAYS AIRBUS:
Wings arrive at Lagardère assembly hall in Toulouse
“God Save The Queen” rang out through Toulouse’ Jean-Luc Lagardère assembly hall as the first A380 set of wings arrived at their final destination.
Designed and built in Airbus’ UK plants, the wings arrived just after midnight on 23 April 2004 after a three-day journey on the road between Langon and Toulouse. They were unloaded and transferred to the assembly hall where work on joining them to the central fuselage began immediately. The 45m long, 12m high wings will form part of the A380 static test aircraft.
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What are these static tests about? Will we see a complete aircraft on its wheels? Will there be a roll out, even if the plane will not ever fly? If so, we'll see the beast fairly soon! Even if there is no roll out, they'll have to move it around Toulouse to static tests facility.

I don't recall having seen a first 747 that never flew. Isn't it odd to use the first prototype for static tests? Is it the rule? What's the history on this, at airbus but also at boeing or any other manufacturer? Anyone?

You can see the pics of the wings in the assembly hall here: http://www.airbus.com/airbus4u/photo_album.asp

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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:48 am

I can't wait for this plane!
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:36 am

I think the static test plane is tested to destruction, hence no flying. aso unlikely it will ever be painted.
I think it is fairly routine to test the first of a new model this way. I remember seing a video of the 777 static test craft having its wing bent until it snapped.
I suppose they have to get confirm the engineers got the calculatons correct.

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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:38 am

What are the engine options on the A380, RR and ?

Edit: actually i've just found out, its GE and RR.

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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:43 am

PW/GE have joined to make the "alliance" engine. GP 7000 family.

The first few planes will be RR. Trent 900.



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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:15 am

I remember seing a video of the 777 static test craft having its wing bent until it snapped.

As far as I know, the very first 777 is in service with United-


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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:23 am

The A340 was tested until the wings snapped. And just because UA had the first 777 in the world in commercial use it does not mean it was the first created ever. Many would on been created for testing reasons.  Big thumbs up
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:28 am

And just because UA had the first 777 in the world in commercial use it does not mean it was the first created ever.

Very true, but in this case.. UA does indeed opperate the first 777 built.
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:32 am

That's amazing. I thought they would keep the first flying airplane. Like they did for the first 747 (I think). It's pretty impressive to have the first prototype good enough to be put on line.
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:32 am

Boeing built 2 static test airframes for the 777. One of these had the wings snapped off in January 1995 (they were pulled 24ft above their normal position at the time).
This comes from 'Boeing 777' by Bruce Campion-Smith (ISBN 0711025045)
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:33 am

But wouldn't Boeing of built test aircraft which were never intended to enter service?
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:33 am

"Very true, but in this case.. UA does indeed opperate the first 777 built."

DfwRevolution, don't you mean the first PRODUCTION 777 built. Doesn't Boeing still own the original prototype aircraft first shown in April, 1994?
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 7:39 am

AvObserver - the original prototype was reengined with RRs and sold to Cathay Pacific a few years ago.

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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:18 am

AvObserver - the original prototype was reengined with RRs and sold to Cathay Pacific a few years ago.

I'm very confused with my 777 history now  Nuts... I'll go reread some old books later.

Boeing built 2 static test airframes for the 777. One of these had the wings snapped off in January 1995 (they were pulled 24ft above their normal position at the time).

I thought these were just structural test frames? As in no systems, no wiring, no engines; only critical airframe components like wings, wingbox, ext.
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:37 am

UA was the first to operate the 777. It was N777UA. Tee FIRST production 777 (Line #1) was N7771 (Boeing registration) and now belongs to CX as B-HNL. It was delivered to them in Dec of 2000.
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 10:22 am

Correct, Cathay Pacific operates 777 line number 1.
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:40 pm

I am going to Airbus next week. Perhaps I will be lucky to see the 380 pieces somewhere.
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:39 am

I've done their factory tour (been to boeing too!) and it's on the other side of the airport from the A380 site. I doubt you'll see anything. Sorry.
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:18 am

I just started reading a book about history of the jumbo, called "Boeing 747 - design and development since 1969" and it says:

"The third and sixth structurally complete 747s never flew but became the static- and fatigue-test airframes, respectively". Static, or "torture", testing began in early 1969 with the airframe being pulled, twisted, and stretched to see if anything "gave".
Finally, in Feb 1979, the starboard wing was deflected upwards 29 feet and snapped when stresses reached 116.7 percent of ultimate design load. [...] The fatigue airframe, located in an outdoor rig, began simulated flight cycles at the beginning of 1970"

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Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:22 am


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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:28 am

Can't wait to see the finished product. By when will the A380 be assembled? I just want to see it take off. See something so huge go up in the air.
 
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RE: A380 Wings In Toulouse!

Sun Apr 25, 2004 2:28 am

I thought these were just structural test frames? As in no systems, no wiring, no engines; only critical airframe components like wings, wingbox, ext.

The book I was referencing only refers to two 'airframes' taken from the production line. Engines are specified as absent. The photo shows a complete fuselage with wings and vertical tail attached. There is no horizontal tail, and no sign of any movable surfaces being fitted.
The systems of the 777 were tested both individually and all together in the 'Integrated Aircraft Systems Laboratory', a three storey, $360 million centre also known as 'Airplane Zero'.
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