Tom in NO
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6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:23 pm

As of 9 PM CDT, MSY had received 6.42 inches of rain on Sunday, due to a very slow moving low pressure system in the midwest. My subdivision (about 3 miles northwest of MSY) received over 8 inches, and it is still raining outside. Many streets north of the airport (between MSY and Lake Pontchartrain) in Kenner were flooded, and numerous cars had been abandoned in the medians. Having our van with me today proved advantageous, as we made it around OK, although winding our way around the flooded streets as we went along.

I wasn't at work today, so I haven't heard how things at the airport went. I imagine there were some delays, and perhaps some ground stops, as well, seeing as there were numerous severe thunderstorm warnings throughout the day. If anyone knows of any diversions or cancellations, post 'em here.

Tom at MSY
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:31 pm

Tucson got just a tad more than that in October 1983 in two weeks and suffered a flood that washed away almost every bridge in Pima county. I don't envy ya'll down there in the least. Good luck.
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:41 pm

Wow, thats amazing. More rain than we (north central Colorado) get in an entire year.
 
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Mon Apr 26, 2004 12:43 pm

Tom:

Couple of weeks ago, my wife and I flew into NEW (Lakefront) for Easter weekend (celebrate 21 years of wedded bliss, actually). NEW's a nice airport, though the 'hood around it was a bit... umm... interesting?

Anyhoo, I noticed as we left the FBO (AviJet, nice folks), we drove through what were quite obviously flood walls, gaps in large solid walls with massive wheeled gates which could be closed. I presume that they were there in order to protect the airport in the event of flooding conditions. Am I correct?

More to the point, how much rain is enough that such measures are required? Seems to me that it would almost take hurricane conditions (i.e., a storm surge in the Gulf waters) to flood the majority of the airport.

You got one helluva town there, we are always made to feel welcome, even the hangovers seem less of a problem in NOLA. Weather was great while we were there, of course, turning on us only when it was time to take off and fly home! Could not fly over to Houston to retrieve 9-year-old offspring from relatives because of thunderboomers, so we just filed IFR and flew straight home to Dallas, and left his return in the capable hands of Southwest Airlines.

Oops, off topic.

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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:26 pm

Those flood walls are closed when a tropical system approaches the city. You'll see them up and down the entire lakefront as well as on both sides of the Mississippi River. Since the city is basically a bid umbrella turned upside down (ie, one big bowl), it doesn't take much to get the streets flooded. The real problem with the hurricanes is the storm surge. The levee system around the city can protect the city from a category 1,2,or 3 storm. If a 4 or a 5 give us a direct hit (straight up the mouth of the Mississippi River is the worst case scenario), there will be trouble. Massive flooding goes without question.

Yesterday was interesting to say the least. We had a four hour flight delay...airport was closed for awhile due to lightning and winds...it looked like the apocalypse. I haven't seen rain that hard in several years at least. The winds seemed to be gusting to about 50/60 knots at times. And the lightning...well, it was one heck of a show. Tom, you missed all the fun!  Smile


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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:47 am

So did that delay the daily AF A340 from CDG?  Smile
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:33 am

6"??? CRP got 12! I'd been needing to fill the pool for a while... glad I didn't bother!!
 
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:30 am

Sccutler:

Glad you enjoyed N. O. and congrats on the 21 years.

NEW is an interesting place as you noted. The main terminal is the original one built in 1934. And you are definitely correct on the surrounding neighborhood.

They have a website at http://www.lakefrontairport.com for those interested.

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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:48 am

well looks like with all this rain the scheduled flights to/from europe cant land today......
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:56 am

Since we are talking about weather... Were I live in San Diego the high is 108 degrees. That's hot. And At ksan it will most likely to brake a record with heat.
 
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:58 am

Just 6"? That's not nearly enough for ConcordeBoy.
 
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:09 am

I hate you  Crying
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:13 am


That must have really put a huge damper on the first week of JazzFest. I hope the fairgrounds dries up before I get into town on Friday!!
 
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:15 am

Deltaffindfw, attendance was about 150,000 for the first weekend of JazzFest, down slightly from last year due to the rain. Amazingly, some 40,000 people were at the fest yesterday during the monsoon. The show must go on!  Smile Enjoy Jazz Fest next weekend!!!


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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:24 am

Anyone remember T.S. Allison from 2001? Rained nonstop for 4 days, 7 days of rain total.... flooded the hell out of MSY and IAH.
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:21 am


Thanks Steve. I've been making the trip for 4 years now, and I've never had a bad time!
 
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:37 am

Oh I remember Allison--I lost my 3rd Gen RX7 in that one--the Big One. Luckily we didn't have home flood damage.
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:36 pm

I just walked in from feeding my horses, so I'll be shaking my boots off, please forgive me...........

Now where was I? Oh yes, 108 in San diego? It was 80 today! Now I have to take the darn boots outside for a wash.
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Tom in NO
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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:56 pm

Anyone remember the May 8, 1995 flood? Some parts of N.O. got 20 inches of rain that day. I had to replace the alternator in my old Saturn after traversing a few puddles that day.

The other irony from that day is that our new control tower had opened up a day or two before. The old TRACON on concourse C (that had just been vacated) got a foot of water in it.

And I feel for you SoCal's, as well. Growing up out there I remember one Christmas Day where the high was 105 in LA.

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RE: 6-plus Inches Of Rain Today At MSY

Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:33 am

I worked AA 1827 from STL to MSY on Sunday, and the return, flight 456 to STL. We got in fine, turned around and off the gate on time, but it took about 35 minutes to get airborn. While sitting there, the rain was pounding our MD-80... Inside, it sounded quite dramatic. I guess we got out just in time though... there was no lightning/thunder when we were there.
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