Corpsnerd09
Topic Author
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:05 pm

Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:03 pm

I have noticed that in the last few years, there haven't been very many new airlines springing up at MIA. Which airlines would you like to see start up a new MIA route?

I'd like to see:

BMI, Spanair.

and the return of Finnair and Turkish.
 
elcapi1980
Posts: 204
Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:31 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:08 pm

Well ....
I will like to see ANA or JAL with daily flight.....

 Big grin or Quantas..... well see
I love you barranquilla!!!!!
 
komododx
Posts: 1734
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:40 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:14 am

Finnair is supossed to come back to MIA this summer if I'm not mistaken, and not just for the season.

Qantas (W/o a U) alreade codeshares with AA to LAX, and from there it's a Qantas plane, a 744 if I'm not mistaken.

I'd like to see Aerorepublica come into MIA. Apparently they already have the rights to MIA and MCO but are still waiting to commence the service.

I mostly would like to see more Asian carriers into MIA, but I really doubt it because the Asian population in MIA is close to 0, and I don't think Asian leisure travelers will go as far as MIA for a tropical vacation.

KdX in TLH
I'm homeless and unemployed
 
AV8AJET
Posts: 1093
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:10 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:25 am

I'd like to see ASA fly into MIA from EYW:

ATL - EYW - MIA - EYW - ATL (something like that on the CR7)

Also Aer Lingus to Ireland would be nice to see.
"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
 
EUSWISS
Posts: 37
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:31 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:34 am

I'd like to see Edelweiss Air A332 in MIA, they used to fly ZRH to Cancun Via Orlando, but they no longer land in the US.

The US-American immigration process is really anoying, as people who are just in transfer to mexico need to fully immigrate to the US
 
User avatar
jfklganyc
Posts: 3983
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 2:31 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:49 am

JETBLUE! Finally some competition against AA to JFK.

PJ
 
flymia
Posts: 6810
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:33 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:54 am

Finair flys to MIA right now MD-11 twice a week. I would like to Aer Lugus. JAL and Qantas. Do do codeshare with AA to LAX that is why there is a Qantas sign Near one of the AA check in counters. Also BMI and South African to come back and Jet Blue would be great. Also More Delta flights to other places besides for THL CVG and ATL maybe SLC,JFK,LAX,LGW,CDG! And Emirites!
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
 
gr8slvrflt
Posts: 1449
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:53 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:20 am

The airlines that MADE Miami:

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Don Boyd
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Don Boyd


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Don Boyd
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Don Boyd

I work for Southwest, but the views expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Southwest.
 
mischadee
Posts: 264
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:25 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:42 am

Us Scandinavians could use a bit more sun so I will say SAS, not that it ever is going to happen. One can only hope.

Mischa.
ARNiboy
 
EddieDude
Posts: 6215
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:19 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:18 am

I would love to see ZE although they cannot fly from MEX and maybe from MTY and CUN either. Perhaps they could do GDL-MIA; does anybody know how many Mexican carriers do GDL-MIA at the moment?
Next flights: MEX-LAX AM 738, LAX-PVG DL 77L, SHA-PEK CA 789, PEK-PVG CA A332, PVG-ORD MU 77W, ORD-MEX AM 738
 
mark777300
Posts: 377
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:30 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:59 am

I would love to see more flights from any other airlines thats not American. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike AA and I know that MIA is one of AA's hubs, but the variety has gone out the window ever since AA became big at MIA. I would love to see another US airline make it big at MIA. More flights from IBeria would be nice. There is just too many silver birds in Miami skies. I miss the days of Eastern and Pan Am and all those exotic South/ Central American Carriers. Remember Ecuatoriana's Liveries??? That was a sight to see.
 
komododx
Posts: 1734
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:40 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:07 am

Flymia,

Yeah the Qantas counter is there just for show. They codeshare on a 763 from AA.

Mark777300,

Well I can't get enough of those silver A300s and T7s at MIA! But I'm kinda biased... Big grin

KdX in TLH
I'm homeless and unemployed
 
Corpsnerd09
Topic Author
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:05 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:33 am

I know QF has a codeshare with AA into MIA, but it'd be nice to see a beautiful QF 744 departing 9L, over Lejeune, right behind the AF, BA, VS 744s, and the IB 742. BD is another livery I'd love to see at MIA, something to the effect of MAN-MIA, or LHR/LGW-MIA (or both MAN and LON), there are Dozens of British Tourists, and with 4 daily non-stops to London (VS, BA (2), and AA) which are almost always overbooked! BD would make a good profit in MIA.

I agree with Mark777300, AA has a huge monopoly on MIA.

And jetBlue has been looking into MIA for a while, from what I've heard. Just like they picked up on LGA.
 
flymia
Posts: 6810
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2001 6:33 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:32 am

Yea and in the winter it is 5 daily flights 2 747-400 2 777 AA and a 747-400 or A340-300 on VS. I think there is room for a cheaper airline like BD or maybe another BA or VS flight or make the second daily AA flight year round with a 767. I would love to see a QF too. Also what about Emirites coming in one day and SAS. Wonder if AF will use A380 in MIA. I would like to see some more Iberia flights but that never going to happen. Also JAL would be great. What about an Aerofolt 777!
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
 
airbus3801
Posts: 1047
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:49 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:35 am

MIA should really get going on the Asian network and JET BLUE to stop the American Domination of AA to JFK. But really get Aer Lingus and Edelweiss (swiss charter) to come in on their A330's.
 
QF744
Posts: 327
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:05 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:21 pm

Qantas to Miami would be awesome.... SYD-LAX-MIA on a 744 would be a great trip!
Much rather enjoy flying QF across the USA rather than the likes of AA, UA etc. - the service differences are miles apart!
QF744
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE UPPER DECK
 
komododx
Posts: 1734
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:40 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:25 pm

To all of you that bash AA @ MIA,

AA has invested tons of money into rennovating MIA so IMHO they have all the rights to have their little monopoly, as some of you refer to it. AA is not the only carrier in MIA, although the biggest, so there definitely is not a monopoly, basic business knowledge. AA is the biggest carrier and as mentioned some lines before, the biggest investor in MIA.

KdX in TLH
I'm homeless and unemployed
 
User avatar
juanchito
Posts: 1054
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2000 2:35 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:30 pm

I would like to see at MIA Tikal Jets, but they will probably server FLL if the route is open one day.

Juanchito
Fotografos de Aviacion de Guatemala. Spotter.
https://www.facebook.com/Fot%C3%B3grafo ... 661476921/
 
MAH4546
Posts: 24560
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:44 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:22 pm

but the variety has gone out the window ever since AA became big at MIA.

That has more to do with the fact that airlines such as AeroPeru, Faucett, Viasa, and Ecuatoriana went bankrupt and less to do with AA. Every major international Latin American airline, from Aeropostal to Varig, serves Miami. What more variety do you want?

Re: Qantas

Forget it. Never happening.

Re: SAS

Never rule out SAS. They are definitley an airline that would not surprise me to come to MIA in the future.

Re: Finnair

They have made MIA a permanent seasonal destination after a very popular winter 04 run. Service will operate at increased frequency, 3x a week, next winter. There are rumours it will go year-round and operate in summer 05. We'll see.

Realisticlly, the following airlines could make a popular go at MIA:

AeroRepublica: They are tentatively planning an MIA launch later this or in early 2005, with service to Barranquilla and Medellin.

Kenya Airways: Look for a Kenya Airways launch around March/April 2005. It looks like it definitley is going to happen. Routing will be NBO-AMS-MIA.

bmi british midland: MIA was, literally, this close to landing bmi this summer, and then Air Canada had a long-haul aircraft shortage and sent bmi on YYZ-MAN. Good chance in the future.

Aer Lingus: Aer Lingus is all ready to launch MIA, they just can't, because the US-Ireland bilatterals won't allow it, and with no budge on the 50/50 rule, they are not changing.

Aerolineas de Sur: This is AR's new Chilean subsidiary. MIA is, of course, in the plans.

jetBlue: Neelman himself has publicly mentioned they are looking at it. I think there is a good shot it will be launch sooner than most people would think.

Emirates: Many people may disagree, but if Emirates is for real about thier agressive expansion stragedy, MIA will fit right into thier plan. It would definitley be one of the later US destinations added, but the market exists for 3-4 weekly flights, especially with the Dubai hub connections available.

South African Airways: A return of SAA would not surprise me in the future. Sadly, it looks like SAA will move ATL service to IAD, and not MIA. I wouldn't rule them out, but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

Independence Air: Very likely for a launch this winter.

Virgin USA: Almost definitley coming to Miami when they launch.



a.
 
airliner777
Posts: 411
Joined: Thu May 25, 2000 6:38 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:45 pm

Definitely CUBANA at MIA with their AN-24s or IL-62Ms!!!!

(yeah, yeah, that won't happen in a long time, but only God knows when)  Big grin

Also:

Aeroflot IL-96-300s
South African A340-600s (but also B747-400s)

 
miamix707
Posts: 3848
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 2:22 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:53 pm

Us Scandinavians could use a bit more sun so I will say SAS, not that it ever is going to happen. One can only hope

there was news about a SAS service to MIA but then came sept 11 and all those future plans were put on hold. LOT were looking to start service in 2001 but again came 9/11 and it didn't happen. Back then Emirates was also looking at a possible MIA service.

The problems with Miami besides the AA monopoly (yes monopoly) is that one or two new airlines start service every year, they stop and don't come again as has been the case with Turkish, Air Transat, European Air Charter and Monarch. The dominance of AA prevents many smaller airlines from Latin America, and expecially from the Caribbean to compete with AA. We do get the major national carriers of every country in latin america (except for Pluna of Uruguay) but these have been reduced to about half in recent years because many airlines have folded, and others have been taken over/replaced by alliances such as Grupo Taca and LAN.

I definitely can relate to what Mark777300 is saying. Miami steadily started losing variety ever since AA's expansion a few years after Pan Am and Eastern left the scene. Besides that, other airlines got their country's category downgraded by the FAA and coudlnt fly here while other airlines just simply folded. MIA was easily the best airport for variety in this side of the Atlantic. It used to be a paradise for aviation enthusiasts.
 
PHLapproach
Posts: 1054
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:37 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:25 pm

I would love to see CX down there this summer, unless they operate a codeshare with someone and that's why I don't see them.
 
tripple7
Posts: 510
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 1999 8:53 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:32 pm

KLM will be leaving MIA from oct 31st
 
sfelix1978
Posts: 39
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:32 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:52 pm

i would like to see TAME flying from quito and guayaquil with their a320.....
i heard that as soon as ecuador get category 1 from the faa, they will apply for the routes and perhaps lease more A320's.
 
komododx
Posts: 1734
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:40 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:09 pm

Tripple7,

Can you give us a source for this?

KdX in TLH
I'm homeless and unemployed
 
chepos
Posts: 5938
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2000 9:40 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:15 pm

I would like to see Turkish at MIA again

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Marlo Plate - IBERIAN SPOTTERS


Chepos
Fly the Flag!!!!
 
Corpsnerd09
Topic Author
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:05 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:34 am

Komododx,
It was hard to find, but here's a blurb about it:

KLM to drop Miami Route, Oct. 31.

http://www.luchtzak.be/article4194.html
 
komododx
Posts: 1734
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:40 am

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:39 am

Corpsnerd09,

Thanks I googled to search for info but didn't find anything. How reliable is this source? Any announcements in KLM's website? And why this decision? There is a Dutch colony down there in MIA plus all the islanders and the tourists, so what is the reason?

KdX in TLH
I'm homeless and unemployed
 
Corpsnerd09
Topic Author
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:05 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:47 am

I'm guessing it has something to do with the AF merger. I didn't find anything about it on KL 's website, but who knows really. KLM was always a big competitor for tourists travelling from MIA, and Latin America to Europe (not just AMS), and even Africa. I guess NW might pick up on the route, like they had before. I remember hearing this in a larger, more official news report, somwhere. But, I cannot find it anywhere now. Perhaps they changed their minds and have removed all traces of it! (One can only hope).
 
Corpsnerd09
Topic Author
Posts: 458
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:05 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:57 am

there's a discussion about it!

KL/AF to Drop AMS - MIA - AMS route
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1538621/
 
MAH4546
Posts: 24560
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:44 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:30 am

The dominance of AA prevents many smaller airlines from Latin America, and expecially from the Caribbean to compete with AA.

If so, why does every major Latin American and Caribbean airline still fly to MIA?

MIA was easily the best airport for variety in this side of the Atlantic.

MIA is still served by more airlines (passenger and cargo; scheduled and charter) than any other airport in the hemisphere.
a.
 
miamix707
Posts: 3848
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 2:22 pm

RE: Airlines You Would Like To See At MIA?

Sat May 01, 2004 5:11 pm

If so, why does every major Latin American and Caribbean airline still fly to MIA?

Because all if not most, let me clarify, most..

-(before you attempt to prove me wrong because you got nothing else to do usually with your time than post aviation news and attempt to discredit ppl because you need to feel good about yourself, btw don't you think you are a little old for that already? sorry dont take it as a personal attack, but it's just obvious, and no I don't hate you or anything lol)-

..of those airlines have been flying to Miami before American had the monopoly they have today. You would see many more airlines at MIA, there is no question about that. Even if they are all not "majors" as most airlines in the Caribbean are pretty small. The variety would be much more interesting. Perhaps there would even be a higher humber of Caribbean airlines than what exist today.

MIA is still served by more airlines (passenger and cargo; scheduled and charter) than any other airport in the hemisphere

Charter airlines .. what LTU? Yes "The airport served by the most airlines in the western hemisphere" that's how MIA advertised itself maybe six or seven years ago. Stretching it a little and that was probably true back then. As far as spotting all I know about the present is, if New York had the easy/close spotting sites MIA has, a day of spotting at JFK would definitely be more interesting. Besides it's not a constant flow of AA all day.

So, sorry my friend, you're wrong here. Probably LAX beats it too, but I've never been spotting at LAX so I don't know for sure.

Off the top of my head, airlines @ JFK that don't go to Miami and in alphabetical order for your pleasure:

Aeroflot
Aer Lingus
Air China
Air India
Air Plus Comet
Air Santo Domingo
Aerosvit
All Nippon
Asiana
Austrian
Biman
CAL Cargo
Cathay
China Eastern Cargo
CSA
Egypt Air
EVA
Evergreen
Ghana
Icelandair
JAL
Kalitta
LOT
Korean
Kuwait
Malev
Nippon Cargo
Olympic
PIA
Royal Air Maroc
Saudia
Singapore
Quantas
Royal Jordanian
Saudi Arabian
South African
Travelspan (Transmeridian)
Turkish
Universal
USA3000
Uzbekistan

Airlines MIA gets that JFK doesn't

ABSA
Aerocontinente
Aeropostal
American Trans Air
Amerijet
Arrow
Aviacsa
Bahamasair
Cayman
Centurion
DCA
Estafeta
Florida West
IBC
LAB
LTU
Martinair
Mexicana
TAM
Tampa
Tradewinds

41 vs 21. JFK hosts about 20 more airlines than MIA


M.R>