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Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:10 am

On an earlier thread, someone kindly indicated to me that Air France has a Miami to Cayenne flight, using an A320.

That 320 obviously stays on this side of the Atlantic, exiled far away from la belle France.

TWA used to have 727s in Europe that never slept in St Louis, and PanAm had some 737 that never left Germany, right?

Are there many airlines that still have "regional" service far away from their base, using aircraft that never come "home"?


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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:16 am

Aerolineas Argentinas has its MD-80s that are based in Madrid and Iberia has its A319s based in Miami. Northwest Airlines has its 757s in Tokyo. These are all based on foreign soil. As for the Air France narrowbodies based in the Caribbean they are based in French territory (French Antilles and French Guiana) so although they are overseas they are still flying from home turf since these areas are integral parts of France.

TWA did in fact have 727s based in Europe until the 1990s and Pan Am had 727s based in Germany since they flew domestic flights from Berlin around Germany as well as to other European cities. The 737s were only briefly in Europe as were the ATRs.
 
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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:21 am

You can add Continental's Miconesia A/C (727s, in the olden days) and Northwest's Far-East A320s to the list.


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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:23 am

Doesn't el al have a 757 for shuttle flights to JFK and ord from MIA and LAX
 
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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:48 am

I may have seen an El Al 757 in NYC at some point, but if so, its been awhile.

I think they have had North American and/or ATA fly some of the internal USA routes for them.

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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:08 am

Now with Continental you can fly the 737 to Europe!

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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:18 am

In NRT providing the weather is ok , at the end of the runway northwest keeps between 3-5 A320's that it uses for intra asia flts. they even toyed with the idea of using DC10-40's on one or 2 flts.

Delta had 727 flts. out of AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA. and UA also had 727's thet flew within Europe.
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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:52 am

United and Delta have also operated overseas narrowbody operations. These were former Pan Am routes.

United operated them out of London/Heathrow and Paris/Roissy Charles de Gaulle.

From Heathrow, United 727-200 service to Berlin/Tegel, Frankfurt, and similar locations.

From Roissy, United flew the 727-200 to Athens and Geneva.

Delta operated 727-200s based in Frankfurt. These aircraft flew to destinations like St. Petersburg, Vienna, Berlin, etc.

Although it was very cool to have US Airlines operate overseas narrowbody hubs, these simply weren't cost effective. I still have fond memories of flying Berlin-Frankfurt on Pan Am.
 
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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:57 am

IB doesn't have it's 319s in MIA. They sleep in GUA, SJO, PTY, and MGA. They only go to MIA to meet up with the 742 and 346.
 
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RE: Overseas Narrowbodies (AF / TWA / PAA...)

Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:59 am

Although it was very cool to have US Airlines operate overseas narrowbody hubs, these simply weren't cost effective.

And with the infinite number of codeshares now, there is no need for US airlines to operate overseas. But yes, I agree, it was very cool to have these flights.

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