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Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:40 am

I just realized that LY has a SIN-BKK in extension to its flights back to Switzerland. I also know that UA has something like LAX-NRT-HKG. Do any other Airlines operate routes similar to this?
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:48 am

LY = El AL. I think you meant LX.

BKK-SIN has lots....
(SK, AY, TK, LX)

UA and NW also have large intra-Asian service.

NZ flies NRT-KIX, though no local traffic is allowed.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:48 am

Oh theres a lot. off the top of my head i can think of a few:

Turkish, SAS, and a few others (can't think off the top of my head) do SIN-BKK routes (theres quite a few that fly this). UA does SIN-HKG (off and on from what i remember, think its back up again), and UA and NW have a TON of flights out of NRT to other asian destinations.

LH does a Jakarta-Singapore flight and also goes to Manila (from Bangkok I think).

AF used to do BKK-Saigon, and Hanoi flights but I believe they have gone to non-stops on a thrice weekly service from CDG.

Gulf Air, flies SIN-SYD

Kuwait Airways (and im not too sure about this) has one in southeast asia (maybe Jakarta-KUL or Jakarta-SIN) as well.

There's a bunch, its a very odd market
SIN > CVG > BOS
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:50 am

Let's see here

NW1 LAX-NRT-AB) (MNL / RPLL), Philippines">MNL 744
NW7 SEA-NRT-ICN 742
NW9 HNL-NRT-PVG 744
NW11 DTW-NRT-SIN 744/D10
NW17 JFK-NRT-HKG 744/742
NW19 MSP-NRT-PEK 744/757
NW21 HNL-NRT-TPE 742/757
NW27 SFO-NRT-BKK D10/744
NW73 GUM-NRT 742
NW75 SPN-NRT 742
NW77 NRT-NGO-SPN 757
NW78 SPN-NGO-NRT 757

This is all I can think of for now.


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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:50 am

NWA has a hub in Tokyo. . . .so. . . .they have a lot of these. . .not to mention FedEx and UPS among others. . .
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:53 am

Thanks for all the feedback so far.

I just did a false booking on the SK website SIN-BKK (To get a price idea) and it said "no seats available" for my set-up dates.
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:57 am

try one of the 9 or so others that fly that route  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

just kidding i dont know if it is 9 but i've seen it as high as 7 or something i think (counting SQ and TG). Always a popular route.
SIN > CVG > BOS
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:12 am

I agree - it is quite amazing the number of Non asian airlines that fly intra asia...

My list...

LX BKK-SIN
LH SIN-CGK
LH BKK-AB) (MNL / RPLL), Philippines">MNL
LH BKK-SGN
LH BKK-KUL
EK BKK-HKG
SK BKK-SIN
AY BKK-SIN
ET BKK-HKG
KQ BKK-HKG

Here in BKK, LX, SK & AY fight it out to sell the BKK-SIN seats off the cheapest. On a good day, you can book a return BKK-SIN trip for around 4,500 baht (US$112) earn miles, and still get a meal!!
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:22 am

SQ452,
Kuwait & the Gulf are still in Asia, and Turkey is mostly in Asia too.


KLM serves Kuala Lumpur - Manila v.v.

KLM and Air France serve Singapore - Jakarta v.v.
(with KLM takeover, I think AF will drop Jakarta soon)

Finnair and SAS serve Bangkok - Singapore v.v.
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:27 am

United operates HKG and NRT as our Asian Hubs. We have flight attendant bases at both. Check out United's website for system maps of all our Asian Destinations.

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:15 pm

And QF I think has many routes intra-asia.
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:27 pm

BA sometime ago went DEL-CCU, DEL-DAC. But I have no idea whether they had 5th pax rights...

otherwise, as it was been said, there are plenty
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:28 pm

And QF I think has many routes intra-asia

I don't think QF has any intra-asia routes, not anymore anyway. If I recall correctly, they used to operate SIN-BKK, SIN-HKG & BKK-HKG many years ago. AO however has flights between Singapore-Kota Kinabalu and Singapore-Denpasar.



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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:28 pm

Don't forget that SAS have been scaling down on the flights to BKK - I think they're now down to 3 or 4 flights pr week.
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:31 pm

CX does HKG - BKK - BOM
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:34 pm

CX does HKG - BKK - BOM

The topic was "Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines". CX is based in Asia.
 
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DXB-KHI

Fri Apr 30, 2004 6:35 pm

Swiss operate Dubai-Karachi.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:02 pm

KL does Taipei-Bangkok. Swiss used to fly the same route.
UA TPE-NRT. NW TPE-NRT, TPE-KIX, etc.
but UA and NW probably have the most intra Asia flight by a Western carrier.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:43 pm

There are quite a lot of non-asian airlines flying HKG-BKK sectors:
KQ, GF, EK, AY, ET, UL

They are airlines I could think off at the moment, could be more  Smile
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:47 pm

GF,EK,UL are all Asian carriers, the first two from the middle east region the latter from south Asia.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:49 pm

Airmale, well....fair enough saying that UL is an asian carrier (opps) but GF and EK is definitely not in asia.

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:52 pm

I did NRT-BKK on UA this past December. (Almost all the crew was from Tokyo except pilots were Americans)l

I know LH has KUL-BKK and DE has HKT-SHJ
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:57 pm

LX:
DXB-KHI vv.
DXB-MCT vv.
BKK-SIN vv.
JED-RUH vv. (no traffic rights)

Some of Swissair:
BOM-HKG vv.
HKG-AB) (MNL / RPLL), Philippines">MNL (also by LX)
BKK-TPE
PEK-SHA
PEK-SEL (if not mistaken)
BKK-SGN

it looks like we have once again an issue of Asia, Middle East etc.

From the geographic point of view, Middle East, Far East, South East Asia, South Asia, Central Asia etc. are ALL in Asia as a continent.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:03 pm

Actually UA did HKG-DEL as well as HKG-BKK a few years back.
 
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ME Is Asia

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:08 pm

Seems like some one skipped Geography in school. Middel East is also called West Asia in some circles.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:27 pm

Airmale,
So it seems like we are both right in one way or another  Smile

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:34 pm

mrniji,

BA indeed did have DEL-DAC and DEL-CCU. They had fifth freedom between DAC and DEL. Now both DEL and DAC flights are non-stops.

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:42 pm

AF fly singapore - ho chi min city
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:44 pm

wrong, you said middle east is not in Asia.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:47 pm

I'd imagine there are a few carriers from the Middle East and Europe that do intra-asian flights between Manila and cities like Bangkok, HKG, etc.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 1:08 am

Well Egyptair used to fly CAI-BKK-Manila- NRT- Manila-BKK-CAI until last month.

Now they operate dedicated BKK flights with 777s (with the same frequency as before) and dedicated NRT flights with A340s (with greater frequency). Manila has been dropped altogether.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 1:21 am

AF fly singapore - ho chi min city

AF canned the Singapore-Ho Chi Min route quite sometime back.
AF ops SIN/CGK on certain days (sorry forgot which days), the rest of the days the 777 just sits on the ramp.

OK perhaps I could give some Non-Asian carrier operated Intra-Asia SIN based flights.

Swiss ZRH-BKK-SIN-BKK-ZRH A340
FinnAir HEL-BKK-SIN-BKK-HEL M11
SAS CPH-BKK-SIN-BKK-CPH A340
Turkish Istanbul-BKK-SIN-BKK-Istanbul A340
United JFK-NRT-SIN-NRT-JFK B777
United Washington-SFO-HKG-SIN-HKG-SFO-Washington B744
Air Mauritius Mauritius-KUL-SIN-Mauritius A340
KLM AMS-SIN-CGK-SIN-AMS B744
Air France CDG-SIN-CGK-SIN-CDG B777
Australian CNS(I think)-DPS/BKI-SIN-DPS/BKI-CNS B763
Lufthansa AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-SIN-CGK-SIN-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA B744

Thats all I can think of ATM.....

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 1:34 am

DIA Middle East is In Asia. Or are only Oriental places Asia to you? if thats the case then you should also exclude all of south Asia stretching from Afghanistan to Bangladesh as Asian because the majority in this region do not have Oriental features or customs.

The Continent of Asia is divided into regions as Swissgabe pointed out:

North East Asia - Japan, North and South Korea, China, Taiwan.

South East Asia - Philippines, Brunei, Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar.

South Asia - Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Maldives, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan.

Central Asia/Caucasus - Kazakhstan, Kyrghyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan as well as western China and Siberian region of Russia. Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and part of Russia (comprising Chechenya, Ingushetia and Daghestan) fall in the Caucasus.

Middle East/West Asia - Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Cyprus(politically Europe, geographically Asia), Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Yemen.

North East Asia and South East Asia are collectively known as East Asia/Asia Pacific

Middle East/Africa comprises Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Djibouti, Eritrea and Somalia.

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 2:03 am

Before a war broke out about geography lessons...
if it's okay with everyone I wish to propose that this topic be changed to :-

"Intra-Asia Pacific Flights By Non Asia Pacific Airlines"

Most of the flight sectors described here are in the Asia Pacific region and the airlines in question are from the Middle East. From the way I see it in A.net, when somebody starts to argue about geography then the whole thread gets seriously derailed.
 
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 5:01 am

NWA has a very loyal following of Asian passengers using its inter-Asian services. They always have and they always will.


As a side note: Perhaps one day some people will realize that all Americans aren't malicious and vile. Until that day comes, all we can do is feel sorry for them for having such a narrow-minded view of the world.


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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 5:05 am

I know what you mean very well, and I dont have a narow minded view of the world, its just that some of you try to act too smart at these forums despite teh obvious, now we've gone off topic end of discussion.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 01, 2004 5:35 am

Getting back to the original topic (the digression fuelled by Airmale not withstanding), I once flew on a SwissAir flight from Hong Kong (Kai Tak) to Zurich which had a stopover in BOM. This was back in 1996, though!
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri May 07, 2004 7:34 pm

Yes, 22right. I guess you flew on a Swissair 743. Cool routings they had years ago ...
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri May 07, 2004 7:49 pm

Lufthansa also do Jeddah-Sanaa in middle east (West Asia) and Baku-Ashkabad in caucasus/central Asia.
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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri May 07, 2004 10:54 pm

British Airways/Bmed fly Yerevan-Tashkent and Baku-Bishkek as well as Baku-Almaty in the caucasus/central Asia.



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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Fri May 07, 2004 11:33 pm

Swissgabe,

You are absolutely right... it was a 743. That was a memorable trip for me, my first (and unfortunately only) landing experience on RWY 13 at Kai Tak (I came in to HKG on a 747SP flown by Air China from PEK). Not to mention being literally dragged by my shirt sleeves by a Swissair agent to my departing flight because I was holding up the SR flight due to late arrival of the Air China flight....

Aah, the memories.

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RE: Intra-Asia Flights By Non Asia Airlines

Sat May 08, 2004 2:30 am

KU does BKK-AB) (MNL / RPLL), Philippines">MNL and SIN-CGK
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