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JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Sun May 02, 2004 8:12 pm

According to the JAL page Aerotransport.org.. the remaining 3 are stored now, and is on sale to UPS..

Farewell...


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je89_w
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:16 am

Really? So fast? JL operated the MD-11 (JA8586) into HNL on 29 and 30 of April as an extra charter (JL8078) due to the golden week. Knowing my luck, I of course missed it, and looks like I'm too late now.

Really sad. Loved to fly them from NRT-SIN-NRT sectors. Too bad.  Sad
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:19 am

Its a shame those things sucked performance wise
 
tsl1011
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:42 am

It seems a little strange that they repainted JA8582 into the new livery in December if they were planning on retiring her.
 
TokyoNarita
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:55 am

???

I believe they are still flying to destinations such as Zurich and Delhi. The retirement is scheduled sometime this year..probably after the summer.

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JL MD-11s Ouy Of Service

Mon May 03, 2004 7:20 am

Truly a sad piece of news. These are such elegant looking jets,but they just did not meet their performance specs. Hopefully,I'll see them in UPS colors.
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lahaina
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 7:40 am

Does JL have enough 777s to replace the routes being flown by MD-11s?
 
TokyoNarita
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 7:42 am

JL451 to Zurich and JL471 to Delhi are still scheduled M11 service from Narita at least through June according to Japan Airlines webpage. Sometime during the summer both routes go to B777.

TokyoNarita.

[Edited 2004-05-03 00:43:10]
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 10:57 am

JL451 NRT-ZRH today is JA8586, ETA 16.01 hrs ZRH time...
 
je89_w
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 1:25 pm

It seems a little strange that they repainted JA8582 into the new livery in December if they were planning on retiring her.

JA8582 was painted into the new colors because first of all, the aircraft went through a D check, which I'm assuming would require the aircraft to be painted into the company's current livery.

The other reason why it was painted into the current livery was because once JL and JD merged, all of JD's aircraft were painted to the current JL livery (part of JD too) which is why you see JL A300s in the current JL/JD a.k.a. "Arc of the Sun" livery. It would have been wrong if JL kept the crane livery, especially since the aircraft went through a D check, since JL kind of "took over" JD.

Don't forget, the Arc of the Sun livery was created because of the merger between JL and JD.
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 2:31 pm

Todays ops:

JA8582 operated JAL725/726 RJAA-WIII-RJAA
JA8586 operated JAL472 VIDP-RJAA
JA8587 operated JAL610 ZSPD-RJAA
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 2:40 pm

I saw yesterday a JL MD11 approching Fukuoka Japan.


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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 4:05 pm

I hope I might be able to see some JAL MD11 again this Summer in ZRH ...

I flew them several times between KUL and SIN.
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 4:19 pm

I hope I might be able to see some JAL MD11 again this Summer in ZRH ...

According to the JAL website, you will see another MD11 in ZRH...

JL451 M11 06/04 Dep 10:30 TOKYO, JAPAN Tokyo Narita (NRT)
Arr 15:55 ZURICH, SWITZERLAND Zurich (ZRH)

Where does this website got their information? If the JL website is any indication, these beauties will be flying in JL colors for a long time. The above example is only one of many I found.
 
hoons90
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 4:40 pm

Ah, sorry. My mistake..
The JAL page on Aerotransport.org, on the chart/table it said that the 3 MD-11s are stored..

Once again, sorry...
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 4:54 pm

Hoons90, that was kind of shoking news  Big grin

No worries ...
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 5:24 pm



Do JAL still have their DC-10's?


 
don
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:28 pm

Last MD11 will leave JAL around Sep-Oct this year. Most MD11 routes will be replaced by B777ER and B767-300s which has been happening for the last 2 years.

Dc10s will be gone by 2006.
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:29 pm

Yes, they still have DC-10's.... Hong Kong is a route they use them on.... along with the 747-200, 300, 400, 767-300 and 777-200!!
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:41 pm

Isn't it a bit weird seeing MD11 leaving BEFORE Dc10s? Maybe Dc10 fit better to JALs need on Domestic and regional routes.

I had fun to fly on a JL Dc10 from PEK to KIX a few years ago. Great plane, like the M11 ...
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 6:59 pm

I saw the JL MD-11 at HNL on May 1st, it left at about 11:00am

So how can it be in storage and be flying?


edit: oh I should of read the WHOLE post Big grin, only three


[Edited 2004-05-03 12:04:21]
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funflyer
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Mon May 03, 2004 7:34 pm

Yeah sorry, again, It was actually in KOA I saw it thats why it stuck in my memory, not HNL, you know after flying home for 15 hours you really do need some sleep Big grin
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je89_w
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Wed May 05, 2004 1:32 pm

So there was a JL MD-11 in KOA on May 1? Wow, I was at HNL on May 1 hoping for a JL MD-11. Great!

I'll just have to keep waiting, I still have some time left!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Wed May 05, 2004 3:31 pm

Isn't it a bit weird seeing MD11 leaving BEFORE Dc10s?
Well American had the 727 in service longer than they had the MD-11, so the JL DC-10's flying longer than the MD-11 isn't the only time an older plane outlived the newer one...

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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Wed May 05, 2004 6:05 pm

My JAL or JAIL rahter... DC-10 flight was crap to say the least, a beauty to look at though.

Worn out interior with the overhead bins and plastics turning a very brownish-yellow...YUCK!

I've seen very nice pics of Biman's interior so I guess it's only for those Jailbirds with Jail.

Don't get me wrong, JAL's 777 and 747 were more than superb and it will be a very sad occation for spotters like me when the trijets leave JAL.

Very glad this post was a false alarm! :P
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Wed May 05, 2004 6:28 pm

I wonder why airlines like JAL is still operating some oldies;
Boeing 747-200,747-300, DC-10,MD-11 etc. I can't stand those 4 star airlines using old aircrafts.

Like BKK-Japan, JAL operates 743,742,DC-10....gosh... Sad They should just get rid of them!!
Let's just blame it on yields.
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Wed May 05, 2004 6:33 pm

Pacific, did you meant that JAL's new-livery DC-10's have the same tired old leftover interiors? If so, then that's a real disappointment. My experience with their DC-10's from a couple of years back was exactly the same as yours. What's worse, the seats have seen better days, and the cushions were thin and unsupportive -- could feel the location of every seat frame on my backside!!
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Thu May 06, 2004 1:20 pm

I've never been on a new livery DC-10s. That flight i'm talking about is back in 1998! I do hope they overhauled the cabin some time in the past 6 years...

A fellow spotter here nicknames the new paint scheme "Jail" and when I saw this thread, it reminded me of my JAL DC-10 experience...was truly a Jailbird.

As for the DC-10 Interior I think it really depends on the airline. Biman has done a great job with this bird!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/223009/L
 
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Thu May 06, 2004 1:26 pm

One more MD-11 passenger-version operator into the history books. The MD-11 passenger service is growing slimmer and slimmer. In a maximum of another decade, the MD-11 will cease to exist in passenger service. The golden age of trijets has clearly passed, and the tri-jets will soon disappear into darkness...
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je89_w
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RE: JL MD-11s Out Of Service..

Thu May 06, 2004 1:34 pm

A friend of mine went in the new livery JL DC-10 (JA8534) in November of 2003, and the interior was just as bad as described by Pacific. It looked way better outside than in the inside.

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