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Asmara To London - Likely?

Tue May 04, 2004 6:39 am

If I recall correctly, Ethiopian used to operate once- or twice-weekly
from Addis Ababa to Heathrow via Asmara. Now there's no operation between the UK and Asmara. Is there any demand at all? If so, is there sufficient
demand to warrant, say, a twice-weekly A320 service, by BMed, perhaps routing Heathrow-Benghazi-Asmara or Heathrow-Luxor-Asmara? Or what about Eritean adding Heathrow or Gatwick onto one or two of its flights to Amsterdam
or Frankfurt, or perhaps a non-stop link?
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Tue May 04, 2004 7:39 am

James,

I wondered the same. Were the Ethiopian to LHR via Asmara flights just a political move to show that Eritrea was being treated fairly by Etiopians?

On a connected note, I know that there are a lot immigrants of Somalian and Sudanese backgrond in the UK. How do they fly to visit their former homeland? Is the traffic dominated by Ethiopian? I would love to know.

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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Tue May 04, 2004 7:44 am

FRA has a considerable Eritrean community. And LON virtually has every community here. I personally think (intuitution) that flights (not too many and not big aircraft - let's say 321 or so) would be fine
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Tue May 04, 2004 10:42 pm

Thanks for your replies.

"I know that there are a lot immigrants of Somalian and Sudanese backgrond in the UK. How do they fly to visit their former homeland?"

BMed operates a thrice-weekly service between LHR and KRT via AMM, of which 2 flights are by the 320 and 1 by the 321. Sudan Airways used to operate once- or twice-weekly via CAI, but according Amadeus.net, these have stopped. Most of the alternatives seem to go via AMM or CAI.

There aren't any flights from the UK to Mogadishu. Most of the options go via JIB.
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Tue May 04, 2004 11:27 pm

Pe@rson, Sudan Airways will start (again) their KRT-CAI-LHR route next month. It will be a weekly A300 flight (SD130). Due to the situation the airline is in, they sometimes suspend flights for short periods and then re-start them again. The latter flights are supposed to be year-round


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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Wed May 05, 2004 2:09 am

I see. Any idea of the price for LHR-CAI-LHR?
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Wed May 05, 2004 5:14 am


>>>There aren't any flights from the UK to Mogadishu. Most of the options go via JIB.

I guess because of no colonial ties between the UK and Somalia. Historically, Somaliland was cut up in three parts by France, Italy, Britain, resulting in today´s Jibouti, Somalia and Somaliland, a separatist province of Somalia.

I vaguely remember BA code ssharing with some local airline into HGA, Hargeisa, "Somaliland´s" capital, what´s up with that?

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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Wed May 05, 2004 5:20 am

Indeed, Daniel, but there's also no scheduled service between any European city and Somalia.
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Wed May 05, 2004 8:18 am

Sudan Airways! Gosh that would be fun. Not!

Lufthansa is currently the only European airline flying to Asmara. I'm sure that would take some beating, especially as they are probably going to be flying the new 333 on the route.
 
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Wed May 05, 2004 4:42 pm

Of course it would be fun - because it was be so different. I would personally prefer to fly a more unusual airline than a run-of-the-mill one.
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Wed May 05, 2004 7:24 pm

Coming back to the original question, LON-ASM flights:

I´m just realising BA do serve ASM on a convenient connexion via NBO:

LHR-NBO 1025-2045 BA65 (744)
NBO-JIB 2200-0030 BA8673 (Air Kenya 732)
JIB-ASM 0100-0215 BA8673 (Air Kenya 732)

ASM-KRT 0230-0345 BA8663 (Air Kenya 732)
KRT-NBO 0445-0700 BA8663 (Air Kenya 732)
NBO-LHR 0930-1645 BA88 (763)

This Air Kenya thingy is apparently some sort of local franchise (à la ComAir in South Africa), since there are no Airkenya codes on these flights.

This begs the question, when I´m thinking about a similar model to HGA, am I confusing it with the above mentioned routing, or did HGA service exist and was axed?

>>>there's also no scheduled service between any European city and Somalia

That´s certainly correct. However, if Somalia was not the failed state she currently is, it would be a safe bet that some Italian airline would be flying there.

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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Wed May 05, 2004 11:22 pm

if i recall correctly, LH fly AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA-ASM thrice a week with A330 - not sure if this is a point to point connection or via ADD / DAR
 
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RE: Asmara To London - Likely?

Thu May 06, 2004 7:21 am

Pe@rson, I don't know about Sudan Airways prices between LHR and CAI, but they are pretty cheap. I do have an interesting story to tell you though. A friend of mine some time ago (maybe 6 years ago) decided to fly with Sudan Airways from London to Cairo (as it was the cheapest ticket). Anyway he slept on the flight (as you do). They arrived in CAI and some people left the plane while those continuing to Khartoum remained. Well during the short, one hour, transit, no crew bothered to wake my friend up and then the plane took-off. It was only when they arrived at Khartoum that one of the cabin crew woke him up...and you can imagine the shock. Anyway the usual happened (arguments and finger pointing) but the airline offered him a ticket on their next day's flight back to Egypt for free.

I swear this is a true story.


Hailstone, the Asmara flights are via CAI I think
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