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TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 4:06 am

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/8586796.htm?1c

You know, there is security, and then there is paranoia, and insanity.

Homeland Security officials have warned airport authorities that al-Qaida and other extremist groups might seek to steal uniforms and ID cards from airline and airport workers as part of hijacking attempts.

If I were an employee with an airline, I would...

1. Actually Wear My badge instead of placing it on the counter next to me.
(witnessed that once)

2. Report my badge as STOLEN/MISSING as soon as I noticed (which would be immediate considering I would always be wearing it.

3. Be a stupid dumbass for not noticing that someone took my badge and uniform off of me.

Why not just do away with the damn badges and use voice encryption like in Mission Impossible. Show up for work, Place your thumb on a pad and say your name. It will then automatically check your authenticity. This would be required anytime you would be accessing sterile areas.
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scottysair
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 4:08 am

Oh please and let make shut it down with DHS now.
 
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 4:09 am

So many aviation enthusiasts buy/sell/trade airline uniforms, including current pieces, that it isn't that difficult to get your hands on an authentic airline uniform.

As a current holder of an airport ID and past holder of ID badges at other airports, including airport operations area, who has been through the classes, there are stiff penalties for not reporting a lost badge, for not displaying a badge properly, or for not reporting an individual in a restricted access area without proper ID.
 
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 4:12 am

Why not just do away with the damn badges and use voice encryption like in Mission Impossible

That can't work either! Haven't you seen Air Force 1?  Big thumbs up
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 4:14 am

Oh please and let make shut it down with DHS now.

We all know you have an extreme obsession with doing away with "ticketed passengers only" Scotty. You just have to accept that you can't go down the concourse to look at the airplanes, at least for the time being. With all of the secondary searches, shoes setting off the magnometer, and TSA shift changes every 15 minutes, the security line can get quite long and I don't want to have to wait in line behind Aunt Ethel and her sixteen relatives going to see off some distant cousin for a week in Florida.

It would probably be easy for somebody to gain access to the airside with a stolen ID, even if their face and name didn't match what is on it. At many airports, the checkpoint wardens only seem to give a cursory glance to make sure you have an ID, or it's automated so you have a computer scan your ID to determine if it is valid or not.
 
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 4:57 am

I think this underscores the need for airports, airlines, and vendors to get their heads together and come up with a standardized badging system. I'm not too confident that the contract security staff responsible for ID checks really knows what's legit and whats not beyond that particular airport's badges. Remember, airline staff can get through the checkpoint with a company crew badge...they do not need an airport-specific SIDA badge. That's where I think the weakness is.

Obviously there are tons of technical hurdles to contend with...but this is something that would equal REAL security.
 
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 5:20 am

they do not need an airport-specific SIDA badge.

Sure they do, if they're going to be in a SIDA. My MLB SIDA badge won't get me on the ramp in ATL. And if they're just going through the security checkpoint onto the unrestricted area of the concourse, why would they need a SIDA badge anyway?

Besides, TSA is developing a Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC), for the purpose of standardization.
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RE: TSA To Test New Security Procedure

Wed May 05, 2004 6:07 am

is there another link? I don't want to join the enquirer right now.
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