FlyinGuy1
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UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 11:56 am

Fox News is currently reporting that UAL flight 200,currently enroute from LAX to IAD, is being tracked/escorted by the U.S. Government (Air Force, NORAD, FBI, etc.) due to "suspicious activity" or a tip about a possible danger aboard the aircraft. Obviously, since this is post-9/11 and the aircraft is heading to Washington, D.C., security and concern is paramount. The aircraft is scheduled to land in less than an hour. I will update this topic as more information comes in from the news, as well as from a friend who works for UAL at Dulles.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 11:57 am

What's the ship number?
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syncmaster
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:00 pm

I don't see anything on their web site, any more information?
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:00 pm

I do not know the ship's number. The aircraft is an A-320, though.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:02 pm

Check out: http://www.flightview.com right now. I've never seen anything like it!
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:03 pm

An A320 seems like kind of an odd aircraft for something suspicious...not as much fuel as a 762, or 752. I'll believe it when I see it (or hear it).
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:05 pm

Why are there two listings for the flight on flightview.com?
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:08 pm

All aircraft ought to be treated the same. You believe that an A-320 is nothing compared to a heavy? 9/11 will not happen again the way it was executed. God forbid, but if there is another attack with an aircraft, it will occur with an aircraft that is carrying bio. agents or some sort of warhead, not an aircraft going into a building! Therefore, ALL suspicious aircraft should be watched just as closely as a heavy!
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:11 pm

There was a thread started on this subject earlier today which was deleted. It has also been on cnn today. Apparently this particular flight has been watched closely by TSA the last few weeks.Particular emphasis was paid in double mchecking the crews IDs. The cockpit crew was even shadowed when they were doing their pre flight checks etc.Their manuals were gone through by TSA. There was extra security at LAX prior to departure. On CNN today a pilot was quoted as saying he had never seen such security in his 25 years of flying. All of this was on CNN a number of times today.
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:14 pm

By all means I'm not saying it shouldn't be watched. But what I am saying is that we shouldn't get people all worked up over it. Especially without any outside sources (from what I've seen) talking about it either.
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:18 pm

not to rain on your parade, but it is FOX reporting it. do you really think they are a reliable source?
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:21 pm

bottom line: if this flight was truly threatened, United would force the flight to land, case closed. Lovely media blitz for nada.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:22 pm

Cancidas,
although this is not a discussion on news sources, why should Fox's credibility be questioned, as opposed to CNN, MSNBC, BBC, or Aljazeera (very reliable and non-biased, right)?
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:24 pm

Cancidas,
furthermore, what political, moral, or economic gain would Fox achieve by falsifying this report??? This questioned MUST be asnwered in order to validate your contention that Fox is not reliable. By the way, I am not a hardcore fan of Fox, or ANY news source for that matter. I just happened to have Fox on.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:29 pm

Jmc1975, how is it different from any other flight on flightview.com?
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:34 pm

not to rain on your parade, but it is FOX reporting it. do you really think they are a reliable source?

I learned about it through an Associated Press bulletin. Are they a reliable source?
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:39 pm

Cancidas,
although this is not a discussion on news sources, why should Fox's credibility be questioned, as opposed to CNN, MSNBC, BBC, or Aljazeera (very reliable and non-biased, right)?


flame away gentlemen, i don't care what you say. and i never stated that anyone is more credible than the other. i don't trust anyone of them.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 12:43 pm

Cancidas,
you should have mentioned that you do "not trust any of them." By the way, I respect you and like your website.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 1:33 pm

They have been going on about this all day. I am sure a lot of us are aware that some flts go through super security. Some daily. I am surprised it is getting as much attention as BA 222/223.
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 1:34 pm


Does anyone know what happened? It was due into DC 45 minutes ago. It is not on our local news, and isn't searchable on the Fox news website or CNN website.




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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 1:43 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,70075,00.html first topic mentioned int he show...

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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 1:48 pm

It arrived at 1139 acording to UA's website.
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 1:53 pm


Thanks UA777222 for finding the mention on their site. I searched using "United" and "Dulles" and nothing came up. It still seems that details (or a conclusion) are absent.




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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 2:02 pm

Speaking of strange things regarding LAX, yesterday the SQ A340-500 flight from SIN was escorted in by an F-16. Apparantly there was a hijack signal being sent out. Thankfully it turned out to be a false alarm.
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 2:04 pm

I don't know what's scarier. The fact that this plane is on the terrorist watch list, or the news blurb underneath the UA one on Ua777222's link...where the TSA is teaching pilots how to shoot guns.

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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 2:20 pm

or the news blurb underneath the UA one on Ua777222's link...where the TSA is teaching pilots how to shoot guns.

Um, why would that be scary? Would you prefer that those wishing ill will have guns and NOT the pilots? Given we all know that a bullet hole won't crash the plane (as many of the uninformed like to think), what's the problem with this?? Why should they not have guns, if trained? El Al personnel have had them for years and have successfully deterred terrorist action.

Why would you have a problem with this?
 
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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 2:38 pm

They shouldn't have guns. They should stop training the people to use guns and spend the $$ in trying to make fix what is the issue and make sure that they don't need to use guns.
EX: Pilots with guns: What do they need these for? To protect the a/c when it gets attacked by hijackers.... Well instead of spending $$ in training and guns spend the $$ on x-ray machine for the individual aircraft for each pax....

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RE: UAL Aircraft LAX-IAD Being Tracked By Govn't

Wed May 05, 2004 11:10 pm

"...Well instead of spending $$ in training and guns spend the $$ on x-ray machine for the individual aircraft for each pax....

UA777222"


How 'bout spending the $$ on English lessons for TSA agents?
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