mNeo
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Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 9:04 am

Im currently booking a trip form JFK-SOF and i was looking at the BA fares from LHR-SOF (3 hour A320 flight) and its $460. Are BA fares always this high or is something wrong here. my JFK-LHR trip is $600 and that includes $100 taxes.
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CPH-R
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 9:09 am

Transatlantic fares, especially NYC-London, have always been notoriously cheap - but the LHR-SOF price sounds right, if it's a return ticket.

Of course, sometimes, the airlines have special offers where the price takes a dip under certain conditions.
 
alespesl
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 11:15 am

Hi there,
why dont you try Czech Airlines (OK) from JFK or EWR via PRG to SOF.

I think they have good prices as well.

 
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 1:22 pm

When are you looking to fly? If the trip falls during UK school vacations, all the fares will be higher because demand is higher.
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GBOAC
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 3:06 pm

Also, watch how you're booking it - it's not entirely clear (to me, at least - but then it's still very early here  Big grin) from your post above if you're trying to book this all at once (i.e. JFK-LHR-SOF) and are just quoting the individual sector prices you're seeing, or if you've already got JFK-LHR booked and are looking to make a separate booking LHR-SOF. If you're trying to book all at once, beware the BA Fare Explorer - it seems to apply the highest fare to European legs if you're coming in on a fare code from abroad which does not otherwise exist...for example, if you're buying a World Traveller Plus ticket (T or W class) then it'll price JFK-LHR correctly but, being unable to find T/W for LHR-SOF, will offer you the highest cost option for that leg. If this is the case, the best bet may be to try and book two separate tickets.

Also, AA can now issue e-Tickets for BA - sometimes aa.com seems to offer cheaper fares than ba.com (I've checked a few recently)...you may be able to save a few $$ doing it that way.

Phil
 
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 5:49 pm

SOF may be 'off the beaten track' as it were-so less trafic usually means higher fares on the flights, or so my BA experience has been. It is cheaper to fly NYC-LON than it is from SYY-LON. Also type of a/c may have a part to play. Although BA use 320s on the NCL-LHR route, there are regular flights, and are cheap.
 
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Thu May 06, 2004 11:51 pm

Thats what i was wondering aswell -
looking at a flight to Montreal (YUL) costs 750 pounds return from LHR , which more than any other airline - this is to travel in august ..
however , for the same period , to Dubai (DXB) on BA , it costs 350 pounds.

why ??
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Fri May 07, 2004 1:26 am

well, i know it sounds crazy-but, for a business class ticket, I heard on Watchdog 9oh how I miss anne robinson on that show Smile/happy/getting dizzy), that it is cheaper to fly Milan-London-USA, than it is London-USA. Totally ilogical, yes, but then again, this is the national carrier of Rip Off Britain
 
sevenair
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 1:38 am

well, im bored, so i tried it out-

Milan-LON-NYC, 20/8/04, returning 27/8/04.

Price for the Highest class cabins -£4719

LON-NYC,

Price for the Highest class cabins - £6596.

Now, can someone please explain the logic in charging £2000 less, despite the fact that there are two flights needed. Is this to get people in the seat from Italy? Im not sure about the rest of the continent, but I cant say it surprises me-we totally get ripped off here
 
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 1:42 am

Sevenair, rip off Britain? I've just found some flights to AGP via the BA site, cheaper than all the UK charters and 'low cost' airlines by £200 in total Big grin I think I'll be booking soon  Big thumbs up

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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 2:08 am

Sometimes its cheaper to book with a travel agent for long-haul flights. This February I had a look on the BA site for MAN-CPT (connecting in LHR) for 4 people. It came to well over £3000 in total, we then tried a travel agent. The total amount the travel agent quoted us was £2200, which is a big saving.  Smile

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sevenair
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 2:45 am

dont get me wrong, they are well cheap from Geordieland down to London, with a nice hot breakfast, leather seats, VERY strong coffe, drop down screens, and proper cabin crew (i.e. ones which smile-not ones who seet themselves as securiy guards  Smile/happy/getting dizzy) and brand new planes, to airports near the city (ie LHR), from NCL-LON, BA are usually cheapest, even if the EZY fare may be cheaper, u still have to travel into the centre of london on the train, which is not cheap. SO, I guess it depends, I stand by my 'rip off britain' statement, and perhps the BA pricing structure is a little dense, but hey, im will always support the national carrier of this great nation, despite the fact that we are often ripped off here in the UK  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
GBOAC
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 3:16 am

Totally ilogical

Not totally. Milan/Italy and the UK are two different markets. If BA want to temp some Italians to be BA-loyal and fly Club World from LHR, why shouldn't it offer a cheaper round-trip from Milan to NYC than it does just LHR-NYC? The markets can be reasonably segmented by 'convenience' - if you (the UK resident) can be bothered to get on a separate ticket to MXP first and then come back and connect to NY, you'll save some money...but most people can't be bothered/spare the time/don't know they can. For someone who lives in Milan, MXP-LHR-NYC at a price which competes favourably with (say) Alitalia MXP-NYC may tempt them to fly BA instead...thus more customers for BA. Charge what each market will bear, I guess.

And presumably they have some take on the numbers of people who'd do this so that it doesn't eat into capacity they could otherwise be selling for £2K+ extra LHR-NYC only...so everyone's happy. Seems to make sense to me  Smile

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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 4:51 am

BA's not the only airline that does this. AC had flights from London to New york via Toronto last December for £159 and flights from London to Toronto for £209.
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 8:03 am

try LHR - GIB

BA knows how to hike the fare.
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 8:28 am

G-BOAC
so we are supposed to go to the other side of eurpoe, ony to return again??? Well, its an absolute disgracec to me, pity the people who are teken in by it
 
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 7:56 pm

Airlinefreak1,
I was looking LON-YUL too leaving August, back December. You're right it was around £750 from LHR with BA, but bizaarely was £300-£350 with BA CDG-LHR-YUL or AMS-LHR-YUL. Makes me wonder if I might be better easyJetting from Belfast to Paris or Amsterdam and connecting from there - it's an ass-about-face way of doing it but for the saving?? Makes no sense whatsoever anyway!
 
sevenair
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 8:06 pm

well, maybe theres some logic to it, but it really is unfair,
 
GBOAC
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RE: Very High BA Fares?

Fri May 07, 2004 8:09 pm

Sevenair - so we are supposed to go to the other side of eurpoe, ony to return again

No, "we" are not supposed to do anything - these fares aren't aimed as "us". Now if you know they exist and don't mind flying out to Milan only to fly back again via LHR to get to NYC and it fits in with your schedules, of course you can - and you'd get to fly Club for £2K less than doing it direct. They're fares aimed at two different markets - which are pretty well separated, but not perfectly so.

It's not a rip-off, it's basic economics - if everyone from the UK suddenly stopped flying LHR-NYC for £6K and would only pay £4K, prices should fall...so long as the airlines can charge more to certain markets, they will. So long as it's worth BA's effort to target fares at regional European markets via LHR more cheaply and fill seats which would otherwise go unsold and take business which would otherwise go to the competition, they will.

Well, that's my take on it anyway  Smile

Phil