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Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 3:53 pm

Anyone know the general load factors on BMI and/or BA from MAN-LHR?

Just curious really..

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Pe@rson
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 4:50 pm

In my experience, the aircraft are 3/4+ full. I think I speak for MYT and JTW when I say that this is normally the case - even during the middle of the day. I suspect that the earlier morning and late afternoon/early evening would be particularly full.
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 5:01 pm

I can echo Pearson's comments. I fly this route a couple of times a week and on both BA and bmi the flights are invariably close to full.
 
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 6:01 pm

I used to fly the bmi route once every month or 6 weeks, and rarely are the loads less than 75%. The quietest ever flight I had on this route there were only about 40 of us on board an A321 - nice and roomy!
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 6:25 pm

Were you a pilot for bmi in the past Rick767?
 
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 7:22 pm

No I used the service regularly to visit my friends and parents up north when I moved down to Gatwick.

Always preferred to go on bmi from LHR for the bmi miles (have enough for a Caribbean trip now!) but more recently I made better use of the BA LGW-MAN service, and now I've moved to BRS I guess it will be an Air Southwest DH8 to MAN!
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 11:37 pm

I flew BMI a month ago on an early morning flight from LHR-MAN, there we're about 10people in Business and 20 in Economy, really bizzare I was expecting it to be full! The flight back was about 70% full though.

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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 11:38 pm

All the times I've flown on the recently (BA in Feb, 757 and A319, BD April, A320) the loads were probably closer to 90% - in dfact I think the BA A319 LHR MAN was full, though it was a Friday evening so very popular
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 11:48 pm

when i flew on BA's A320 last dec. and Jan from Man to LHR return , the loads were both above 95%

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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Thu May 06, 2004 11:52 pm

You can see why that route is so popular when Virgin Trains are asking upwards of £50 rtn for 3 hours of hell. BA and Bmi have capitalised on the poor rail service and they charge dirt cheap fares on this route, I don't think i'll ever take the train if I'm heading to London anymore.

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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 2:26 am

"BA and Bmi have capitalised on the poor rail service and they charge dirt cheap fares on this route."

Not really, unless you book quite a bit in the future. For example, if I wanted to fly from LHR to MAN tomorrow morning and return tomorrow night, it would cost me 255.40 pounds on BMI (plus 3 pounds extra if using a credit card) and 270.40 on BA, with train fares costing from 140.00 pounds. None of those options are cheap. In contrast, it would cost me 51.40 pounds (plus the 3 pounds) on BMI and 58.40 on BA if I had a day trip on 10th August, with the train fare being from 16 pounds. Evidently there CAN be cheaper tickets - but which are hardly "dirt cheap" - but it all depends upon when you book.
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 3:51 am

Yes, point taken Pe@rson, I know the term 'dirt cheap' to you would only apply to a £0.01 Ryanair fare  Laugh out loud But you can find the low fares up to a few days before the day of departure usually. I know alot of people who have ditched the train on this route and having travelled it many a time I can see why. I guess its just how flexible you are and your ability to forward plan.
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 3:57 am

I fly BA on a regular basis between LHR & MAN,on all occasions the flights have been about 90%+ capacity.
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 4:12 am

"Yes, point taken Pe@rson, I know the term 'dirt cheap' to you would only apply to a £0.01 Ryanair fare."

How dare you! I would say 0.99 is also dirt cheap.  Big grin

"But you can find the low fares up to a few days before the day of departure."

Interesting. If I wanted to fly from LHR to MAN on the morning of the 10th May and return in the evening, then the cheapest on BD would be 125.40 (plus 3 if using a credit card) and 140.40 on BA, neither of which are at all cheap. Hardly "low fares" even though today, the 6th May, is "a few days before the day of departure."

In my experience, the lowest fares by far are almost without exception bookable quite a bit in advance, unless you're willing to accept quite poor timings which are not conducive to a day trip and still pay a pretty high price.

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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 4:12 am

My BA flights LHR-MAN are always quite full also.

On every flight we have had a BA crew PAXING up to MAN also.
 
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 4:42 am

"On every flight we have had a BA crew PAXING up to MAN also."

Yeah - the crew which fly the 763 from MAN to JFK are based at LHR but commute to and from MAN.
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RE: Loads On MAN-LHR Route

Fri May 07, 2004 7:38 am

I fly BMI LHR to MAN all the time.
It's nearly always full.

Last week I flew my parents down...

Virgin has engineering works every weekend for the last 12 months and for the next twelve months meaning weekend travel is not less than 4h30 before any of the usual delays, wind, rain, leaves, voodoo or black magic occurs.
At £50.40 for the train, to £78 for the plane at relative short notice to me there is absolutely no question as to who I would travel.

At the same time you get a drink and a sandwich on BMI, compared to nothing what so ever and standing in the aisles on virgin trains.

it's not just the time and the money...
it's the being treated like a person and not cattle that makes the difference.

I say good luck to BMI.


btw.. Ryan air and Easyjet do not fly the London Manchester route.

Options are:

BMI LHR-MAN
BA LGW-MAN
BA LHR-MAN
VG LCY-MAN

THE VG route is always full as well, even though it starts round £100, this is the true fastest city to city method..
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