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5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 9:40 pm

This might be of interest to some of you as former topics have shown.

The following widebody aircraft from United Airlines are for sale via Boeing now:
744s: N185UA, N186UA, N188UA, N189UA, N191UA (built 1992/93)
777s: N766UA, N205UA, N207UA, N208UA (built 1995 resp. 1999)
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 9:43 pm

It will be interesting to see where the 777's go

I hope the 744 dont get converted to freighters
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 9:51 pm

I've got $20.00 in my pocket....will I be able to get a 747 for that much?  Nuts
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 9:54 pm

You could get this one

 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 9:57 pm

Where did you get that from? Sources?????
 
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 10:12 pm

Umm....... interesting. But you sure its United? Coz UA 747-400s have 14 First Class seats and the seat patch for economy class is around 31-32.

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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 10:54 pm

All are UA, just look at the serial-nos... Its easy to check.
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 11:09 pm

Lets hope UA dont go the same way as Sabena  Big grin

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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 11:15 pm

I have read the Corsair is in process of acquiring a fex ex-UA 744's, does anyone know if deal fell through? If these 5 were just put on market I am not sure if this leaves any remaining parked UA 744's for Corsair? I know 2 were sold last year to UAE/Dubai Amiri, and a handul were returned to service.

Also surprised this are being sold by Boeing. Thought most UA 744's were owned by UA or leasing company.

Anyone know status of Boeing plan to convert a 744 to a parts transporter for 7e7 ala Airbus Supper Guppy?
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 11:20 pm

None of the aircraft are being offered for sale/lease by United Airlines itself.

All these aircraft were part of the lease returns following the airlines Ch11 filing, and have been out of service with the airline in some cases over 1 year.

The aircraft are being remarketed by their owners (Bristol Associates in this case).

If you do further reserach you should be able to find ex UA B737-300/500 and B757s that are also on the market.


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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 11:28 pm

The aircraft are not sold BY Boeing, they are advertised there as being offered by other sources.
Boeing itself has only two used 744s for sale. And these are on offer for quite some time already. One Combi ex-Malaysia (I wonder where the second one has been sold to recently), one ex-Air China (parked since more than 2 1/2 years!). The number of available secondhand-744s has been drastically reduced over the last months, the list was much longer in January.
Also the 777 on order for Lauda Air has disappeared from the list.
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 11:30 pm

Not sure on this one, but the 747-100/200 were easy to convert to freighters because the upper decks were already smaller. Will cargo companies pay to have the decks reduced to frieghter size or will they fly with all that wasted weight?? I scanned through the 747-400F pics and did not find one with an extended upper deck. Eventually many of the pax 744s will have to turn into freighters.
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Fri May 07, 2004 11:52 pm

Roberta, we are talking about UA a/c that is parkted in the desert, not Malaysia a/c.
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sat May 08, 2004 12:08 am


The price...the price...the price ???
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sat May 08, 2004 4:07 am

AirframeAS, Roberta was being sarcastic about the Malaysia a/c, that is a plastic model airplane that one can purchase for about US$20. LOL
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sat May 08, 2004 4:11 am

Ha ha did you think it was an MH 744 parked on an almighty section of blue carpet
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sat May 08, 2004 4:26 am

Roberta don't you mean a blue tarmac, you wouldn't want to confuse anyone again! LOL
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sat May 08, 2004 4:27 am

I scanned through the 747-400F pics and did not find one with an extended upper deck. Eventually many of the pax 744s will have to turn into freighters.

KLM used to fly with converted 747-300 (designated as 747-300SF) with the same extended upper deck as they had when they were pax aircraft. However the payload is less due to the longer upper deck. Therefore I reckon that converted -400s will also have the extended upper deck.

 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 5:05 am

I love United, I love there all Boeing long haul fleet and It will be a big shame if they decide to sell off some of there aircraft, especially there 744s, man I love them!

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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 6:38 am

What are the chances that maybe Delta will pick up the second hand 777's. I'm sure CO won't It might hurt their avg. fleet age with those triples being over 10 years of age.
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 6:51 am

747-400SFs will have the extended upper deck.

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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 7:01 am

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I am gonna hate to see those 777's go bye bye. :-( I think this puts AA at the top with their 777 fleet. I know that UA still has one brand new(?) 777 in storage... UA currently has 55 and AA with 49 55-4=51 ok WE ARE STILL ON TOP or at least I think.

I can see the 744's going to freight or some newer EU carriers.


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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 7:20 am

Just a thought - why doesn't UA take the 777's, paint them in TED colors, and give WN a run for their money. Transcons out of secondary airports? Even if the seating is preposterous, I would prefer a UA product anyday over a WN 737. Just OMI............
 
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 7:35 am

Tbear,

What a great idea. I have a feeling that UA won't take that big of a chance. Now that I think of it isn't all of Vairg's 777 fleet old BA a/c? Airlines like this would probably love a/c like these that are kept in great condition.

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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 7:37 am

Wont be to expensive in 50 years when teh £/$ rate is 1/50million  Nuts
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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 7:41 am

I would think that maybe TG would buy one or two 744 to start new US routes, or they may just use their A345s for that.

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RE: 5x 744s And 4x 777s Put Up For Sale By UA

Sun May 09, 2004 7:47 am

Also the 777 on order for Lauda Air has disappeared from the list.

Order converted into 737s



What are the chances that maybe Delta will pick up the second hand 777's.

Zero to none.

DL is an insourcer... so it wouldn't affect them much. But about the last thing they'd want is more PW-powered birds in their fleet.
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