FURUREFA
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AA's A300 To Caribbean

Sun May 09, 2004 11:32 pm

I will be flying BOS-SJU an back on a AA A300 in First. What seats, food, IFE, etc... should expect.

Thanks,

Mat
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Sun May 09, 2004 11:48 pm

Yes, it is on the IFE movie on the flight to SJU and hope this is your helps. Thanks!
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Sun May 09, 2004 11:56 pm

Ive only flown the A300's in coach, but Ive passed through the first class cabin and it looks like it's in need of a refurbishment. But I've read around here that they are being upgraded to AA's new interiors so maybe you'll get lucky. I love to fly on the A300's even in coach (were there is no mrtc) so enjoy your flight down to Puert Rico.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 12:00 am

Dont expect a PTV as they were taken out when they stopped using them for transatlantic runs, food wise I wouldnt know but in the coach cabin they have been serving food like rice and beans and stuff like that.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 12:12 am

Too bad they took the PTVs out! Why though? Since they were allready installed.

Mat
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 12:22 am

Im not completely sure if the PTV's were taken out from the ex transatlantic configured A300's (in first), but I would venture and guess they were. Im certain they were taken out in coach but there is a margin of doubt in First, if they did take them out in First most probably it was so they could standardize the whole fleet and offer the same service level on all the A300's.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 12:43 am

Expect standard AA fare as far as food goes.. Nothing special for sure. My advise on the A300 is never sit way in the back. The plane tends to fishtail alot /side to side motion/ and can be both annoying and cause nasua. IFE on the A300 is pretty much standard for the days they were built. Some Audio
and video but nothing individual or wonderful in Y class. The A300 was actually ok with the more room concept now however that they put the seats back in expect a BIG OLD Cattle Car !!
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 1:15 am

I flew business on AA's A300 on SJO-MIA, I guess they use the same configuration to Costa Rica as to Puerto Rico.
I didn't like it; the only thing notably different was the food.
Old interior, no PTVs, not too much space. Try to avoid the first row if you have long legs.
I didn't pay for it myself though; I would NEVER pay myself or use my miles for such a small difference with coach.
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 1:35 am

What is my chance of getting a A300 with the new seats in F?

Mat
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 1:42 am

The airbus A300's aren't all that bad. I flew Business Class from MIA to Barbados and the old-style seating is not bad.

Refering to a post further up, I'm actually quite sad that they took the A300's off transcontinental service. I know the 772's and 763's are doing fine on the runs but a few high capacity haulers like the A300 running twice daily to CDG or LHR would be fun in this time period. Maybe they don't wan't the reputation for flying "older" aircraft on trans-atlantic service?
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 3:27 am

Actually, some of their 767s are older than their oldest A300s. The A300s are fairly new (late 1980s). I do agree that the perceived image of the A300s is generally that of an older technology than the 767s or 777s, but I don't think most people flying would even notice.

FURUREFA, you have absolutely no chance of getting the new seats in F. I don't think they have any plans to install these at the moment. The only thing they're changing in the A300 is giving the coach seats the new seat covers (dark blue as opposed to the horrible light green). Beyond that, I don't think they're doing any seat upgrades.
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 2:58 pm

Why does AA only fly the A300's to the carribean and why did they buy these airplanes in the first place?
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 3:41 pm

They are just starting to refurbish the A300 interiors.

All of the above is true. Here is one bit of trivia to look for: The bulkheads have little trap doors that drop down so that bulkhead passengers can look forward to see movies.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 3:43 pm

Light green? I don't ever remember light green seats on AA's A300s. There were two older fabrics, the royal-blue "tribar" as AA calls it, and another with sort of an Aztec design on it, which was blue as well. I've not heard anything specific about the seats in first on these birds, but since AA has said 757 f-class seats will remain as is, I assume the A300s will too since they utilize the same beige leather seat cover. The Aztec design was found only on the three-class A300s, which have all been converted to two-class. Consequently, when the three-class birds went through reconfiguration for two-class, the entire IFE system was removed and replaced with a new one that includes LCD monitors, but no PTVs in any cabin.

AA flies the A300s to the Caribbean simply because of capacity for both passengers and cargo. As the story goes, AA bought the A300 to make it clear to Boeing and McD that AA was willing to shop elsewhere. Well, we now know about AA's infamous agreement to buy all Boeing. The aircraft weren't well suited for transatlantic travel thanks to s short wing. The aircraft isn't capable of climbing to the altitudes a 767 can and has limited range with full payload.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 10:34 pm

Ogflyboy is right about the cargo.

For those of you that dont know much about the caribbean that you can always tell when a flight is bound for tthe caribbean because the pax have a bundle of luggage and for some islands the luggage isnt suit cases but boxes.

My aunt travelled on the A300 in first class and she liked it found that is was very comfortable.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Mon May 10, 2004 10:40 pm

For best seats, check seatguru.com a great reference!

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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Tue May 11, 2004 12:20 am

Why does AA only fly the A300's to the carribean and why did they buy these airplanes in the first place?

There is a lot of cargo passing from the US mainland to the Carribean and back so AA take advantage of the A300's massive cargo hold. They are also high density planes more suitable for tourists than business flights. The A300 is AA's largest plane in terms of pax capacity.
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Tue May 11, 2004 3:26 am


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The seats will most likely be the brown/tan leather ones shown above. There is a small chance you will get the updated blue seats but don't count on it. the seats are usually worn to an extent but they are wide and comfortable. There is no foot rest and recline. Though not that great by premium class standards, it is adequate.

First (or business on international routes) has three rows of 2-2-2 seating with seats 1A and 1B missing so if that is what your boarding pass says, you aint getting on that plane! Try to avoid the bulkhead seats 2A, 2B, 1D, 1G, 1H and 1J because of the limited room in front of the bulkhead.

If you like window seats, try to get 2J since it has the best window alignment (2A also but I already told you to avoid it.. remember?) 3A and 3J are not bad but the window is slightly off alignment, though not enough that you will have to twist your neck to look outside.

Individual PTV's? Ha! Yeah right! No my friend, that will not happen, however there are a couple of overhead monitors for your viewing pleasure, though there is really not much worth watching. Just bring a good book and you will be fine.

Service is good, not outstanding for premium class. Expect a pre-takeoff drink in a plastic cup, and warm nuts soon after takeoff. Hot towel service is great. The meal is OK, not outstanding. Normal stuff, chicken, beef sometimes rice and beans. Salad, fruit and desert too. You do get a real wine glass though, and as much wine/liquor you can consume before you get obnoxious or pass out, whichever comes first. In this day and age, hopefully the latter.

Bathroom is up front near the cockpit so whatever you do not try to open the cockpit door thinking it is the bathroom - then again give it a try and write to tell us what happened to you  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

All in all, though nothing special as far as premium goes, you should expect decent service. Compared to the cattle-crush in economy since the A300 are high density aircraft (American's A300 carries more pax than their 777) it is well worth the upgrade costs. The 300 is a great aircraft and I suspect most of those people bashing it have never flown in it. The 3 1/2 hour flight should be pleasant. Hope you find this information helpful and have a great trip.





 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Tue May 11, 2004 3:36 am

Sorry, the last couple of sentences in the first paragraph above should read "There is no foot rest, and recline, though not that great by premium class standards, is adequate."
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Tue May 11, 2004 3:39 am

Am I the only one who heard that AA didn't actually buy the A300s but, rather, inherited them when they bought Eastern's routes to South America? I have flown on Eastern's A300s and the following year these birds were the identical plane, minus the new paint job. I even seem to recall that some were temporarily flown in Eastern colors with "American Airlines" painted over the fuselage.
I don't work for American. I am not in the industry. I have no sources. This is about twenty years ago, so my memory is fuzzy. However, this is what I recall. I'd like anyone who knows to please clarify.
By the way, I have flown in the two class configuration in "first". Actually, it's more business than first. Seats are comfortable but not anything like true first class seats. And I wouldn't expect too many amenities.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Tue May 11, 2004 3:41 am

No they didnt get them off Eastern they where the launch customer for the A300-600. I think CO might have gotten the A300 off of Eastern. Eastern's where A300b2's.
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Wed May 12, 2004 6:49 am

Thanks, actually on tye way back it is a 757. Is first the same?
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Wed May 12, 2004 6:56 am

Roberta the 600R not the 600, the 600R had many updates/improvements vs the 600.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Wed May 12, 2004 7:08 am

I've flown on AA A300s with new interiors in the F/J cabin. The seats are in the same blue patterned cloth that you find on other AA aircraft. The seats are densly padded and quite comfortable, but lack PTVs and legrests. My understanding is that all the A300s that were configured in three classes for transatlantic travel got these new seats when they were converted. I do not know how many there are or to where they fly, but I got them on JFK-MIA and MIA-JFK last August.
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Wed May 12, 2004 7:39 am

I have been on UA's 757 from BOS-DEN and DEN-BOS in F and the seats were very comfortable, way more than from what I hear AA's 757s.

Mat
 
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Wed May 12, 2004 8:08 am

AA Has nine A300's with the New blue seats. Which were the nine 300s that
were 3-class birds. Chances are good you might get one. All in all, Most airlines
from the states to the Caribbean have no PTVs. Only B6 has LiveTV, USair's
A330-300s have PTVs up from PHL, and CO's 762s from EWR.
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RE: AA's A300 To Caribbean

Wed May 12, 2004 8:54 am

American's 34 A300B4-605Rs are all new build aircraft delivered directly to AA.

No other US carrier has operated the A300B4-600R in a passenger configuration.

American did order these craft to teach Boeing and McDD a lesson, but they have found their niche - a niche no other aircraft can currently serve in an economic fashion.

If American were United, which they aren't, they would likely replace these aircraft with 777-200As. I think that the type will stay in the fleet until they all turn to piles of oxidized dust with the plastic fin sticking up. Buying new 7E7s for this space is just not economical in the downturn.

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