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Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 1:19 pm

I was trying to find any route operated by an airline in which they alternate equipments in different days of the week.... Only trans-oceanic routes and heavy planes, I know AA might alternate MD80's and 737's between DFW and ORD or AF 37's and 320's... That's not the point. Is there any airline who flies a 777 and next day a 747 or so?

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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 1:32 pm

UA Flight 918 (IAD-LHR) 762, 763, 772, or maybe even a 744.  Smile

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mas a330
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 2:03 pm

LAN Chile LA601 (LAX-LIM-SCL) comes to mind... A340 or 767
 
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 2:21 pm

Sort of similar. Same flight number operated by different equipment on different legs. Example United Flight 863. Chicago to San Francisco is an A319 and from San Francisco to Sydney is a B744.

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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 4:08 pm

Nothing unusual ...

TG, JL, UL and other carriers operate different aircrafts ex ZRH with the same flight nbr.
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 5:00 pm

EVA Air

Long-Haul (LAX, LHR): B747-400 and B747-400M

Short-Haul: A330-200, B767-200, B767-300ER
 
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Sun May 16, 2004 11:55 pm

Two flights I'm taking this July:

UA #916
SEA-IAD 757 (A320 in the winter I think)
IAD-Frankfurt 777

UA#949
LHR-ORD 777 (or maybe a 744 if an a/c switch)
ORD-SEA 757 (in the summer, A320 in winter)

Many UA flights are like this. I don't know if it's still in place, but UA had a flight that started in SEA, #942 I think it was, that was a 777 the entire way, but with a stop in ORD. I think #928 to LHR was the same way from SEA.
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 12:04 am

JL951 NRT-ICN
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747-200
747-300
747-400
767-300
777-200
DC-10
MD-11

JL953 NRT-ICN
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767-300
DC-10
MD-11

JL955 NRT-ICN
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747-200
747-300
747-400
767-300
DC-10

JL957 PUS-ICN
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767-300
DC-10

JL961 KIX-ICN
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747-300
747-400
767-300
777-200
DC-10

JL963 KIX-ICN
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747-300
747-400
767-300
777-200
DC-10

JL967 KIX-PUS
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MD-11
777-200
767-300

JL972 FUK-ICN
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767-300
DC-10

KE001 ICN-NRT-LAX
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747-400
777-200
777-300

SQ882 SIN-ICN
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747-400
777-300

TG### BKK-DAC
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A330-300
MD-11

KE### ICN-OIT
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737-800
737-900
A330-200
A330-300

KE### ICN-AXT
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737-800
737-900
A330-300

KE767 ICN-AOJ
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737-800
737-900
A330-200
A330-300

KE### ICN-ULN
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737-800
A330-200
A330-300

OM### ULN-ICN
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737-800
A310-300

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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 5:41 am

I'm sure that a number of airlines does the 'same flt #, different a/c' thing, but I remember CO doing this last year.
I was on CO21 from EWR-Orlando, this was a continuation from MAN. The MAN-EWR leg was a 764 while the EWR-Orlando leg was a 753...Luckily the day I was on the flight the 764 made the Orlando flight too  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Anyway, looks like CO is the same way this year too.
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 5:51 am

US flight 196/7 from/to MAN is only meant to be from PHL, however, pax can continue on to SFO on the flight, but with a change of equipment, not sure what it is though. So thats why you may see US196 as arriving from SFO on the flight boards at MAN!
 
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 6:04 am

Sometimes CO flt 1 from IAH TO HNL is a 777 and then continues to GUM as a 767 same flt number.
 
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 6:21 am

Thai airways TG991/992
BKK-SYD-AKL
B744 and B743
 
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 6:37 am

AA flight 46 goes from SFO-ORD on 738 then it continues ORD-LHR as a 777. This happens alot I was on a flight from BOS-PHX via MSP on NW and I was on a 757-200 and the flight continued on to Japan. I was thinking to myself there is no way in hell that this plane can get to Japan. But it turn out it was continued on a 747. It also happened to my grandma a few years back and it was very confusing for her because she was going somewhere in Fllorida to CMH and the flight number continued to CMH but the same plane didnt. So they first told her she was just to stay on the flight but then when they stopped in DTW they told her that she had to get off because that flight was going elsewhere and so it was confusing. Does anyone know why airlines do this I mean it could cause alot of confusion like it did for my grandma.
 
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 1:43 pm

Northwest has become famous for that; although I know Delta does this as well. Example:

I was on a NW flight from Baltimore to Detroit with continuing service to Milwaukee...the first segment was on a A320, and the second was on a 757 leaving from gate on the opposite end of the airport...

Two weeks ago I was on board Delta's 5:40 AM departure from Detroit to Atlanta, continuing on to Charleston, SC...not until we arrived (on-time no less) into ATL did the flight crew indicate that in fact, passengers had to deplane that MD-88 and go to another MD-88 at a different gate, while our plane turned around and headed back to Detroit of all places...which i found weird. Additionally the 767 flights to/from Florida have continuing segments to places like Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Boston, etc, and the segments frequently are on different aircraft (might both be 763's but not the same 763's)

Can be confusing when a 'direct' flight is not really a direct flight- I believe airlines do this to preserve flight #'s but there is no difference to me between a 'direct' flight with a change of equipment and a connecting flight...
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 6:27 pm

Just got back from a trip to BKK, and my ticket showed same flight number, but a change of equipment.

The flight was UA 837 from SFO-BKK with a change of equipment in NRT. Funny thing was, both legs were done by a 747-400, but they physically did change to a different 747-400.

Same thing on the return on UA 838-

Therefore, it was catagorized as an equipment change!

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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 8:07 pm

On ATL-MCO, Delta would switch MD-11s and 777s in and out; it was quite a treat last summer to have a 777 listed, and show up at that the gate and see an MD-11! Sadly, later that day, the aircraft was sent to the desert.

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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 9:12 pm

B@stard change of guage flights ! They ought to be illegal - yet again, the airlines trying to con the travelling public into thinking that direct services exist between Wet Duck AR and Shanghai, when in fact its three puddle-jumpers, 2 wide bodies and a train masquerading under a single flight number - there ought to be a law !
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 9:39 pm

Continental #5 operates LGW-IAH-MSY, and flight #4 operates the return leg. 777's operate the transatlantic segments, while the IAH-MSY/MSY-IAH portions are flown with usually an MD-80 or 737-800. What's funny is that our reservation system shows the IAH-MSY portion to be a 777 as well. Talk about a glitch! Well, this is the same system that shows United 727-200's still flying between DEN and CLE. Go figure.


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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 10:59 pm

Actually they are called Change of Guage flights and admittedly the Department of Transportation (DOT) says they are illegal but as long as the airline selling the space warns the passenger that is "good enuff" to warn an unsuspecting passenger. Much the same way the Code share flights say between United and USair are....When you are on a United plane but is coded as a USAir flight. Another example is the code share betwen say United and Air Wisconsin...The booking agent MUST tell the passenger that the United Express portion is NOT really United but Air Wisconsin.
We travel agents are also bound by this stupid obligation and both a travel agent and an Airline reservations agent if caught by the FAA or DOT even forgetting to disclose this information can incur a fine of up to $25,000 per occurance.
Nevermind that the DOT has already said that what the airlines is doing is ILLEGAL!!! They are willing to side step this regulation and put all the responsiobility for disclosure on the booking agents shoulders. I wonder how websites like Orbitz, Travelocity, etc.. are able to get around this?!?!!?
Imagine having to explain to someone that rarely flies or is older that they are booked on Usair from Chicago to Phoenix but its not really a USair flight but a United flight. So they want to know where they check in....USair or United... I have been a travel agent for coming up on 16 years and Sometimes I still have to stop and think what I will tell these people....
The airlines have the federal govenment so wrapped around their fingers that if they do anything that is considered contart to anti-trust regulations or fraudulant, it gets swept under the rug, so why not mislead the flying public whilst were at it and lay the responsibility on someone else...Which is exactly what they have all done. They will continute down this path until soem one has the nads to do something aboout it.

I know that all of us, here in these forums (well most fo us) know better of what to expect but when you are dealing with people sometimes who have never left their house except to make a run to the grocery store, It makes my job just that much harder.
Oh well, just my two cents...

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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Mon May 17, 2004 11:13 pm

Er, I am sorry for some mistakes in my reply.

Instead of PUS-ICN, I meant NRT-PUS, I am puzzled why I made such a mistake :S
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Tue May 18, 2004 2:18 am

I wonder how websites like Orbitz, Travelocity, etc.. are able to get around this?!?!!?

I do know that Expedia initially shows a 2-way arrow next to the flight number listing for its code-shared flight listings. After an itinerary is selected but before the on-line ticket is purchased, the code-shared information (if any) is shown in more detail.

I do believe that CheapTickets also lists the code-share info. after the itinerary is selected but before the purchase is made.
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RE: Same Flight Number, Different Equipment

Tue May 18, 2004 2:42 am

Orbitz also shows who is actually operating the flight, if it's not the same as the carrier that the ticket is booked on. I don't know if they show change of guage. Anyone have any ideas?