Espion007
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Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 4:46 am

What is the average cost to become a full time commercial pilot?

does training really total 100,000 also?
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mikedlayer
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 5:50 am

It does cost around about that, but you don't end up paying all of it.

I've found some good training schools here in the UK, costs around about £60,000. I think you put down a deposit of £15,000 on entry to the academy, and on completing training once you have got work as a pilot for an airline you pay off the remaining £45,000 plus a little bit of interest over your first 7 years of employment.

Don't worry they're not that mean and going to make you write a check for 100 grand on the spot lol.

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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 5:54 am

If you go the military route, youll make at least 45,000 a year.
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 6:06 am


The KLM Flight Academy (KLS) cost about €107.500! This includes almost everything but the traveling cost in The Netherlands and the Campus where you will stay, are, just as the overall cost for food etc, not included in the price!
further, I don't really have A clue how much it is with other companies.

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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 6:06 am

No, it's not $100K. Unless you seriously got ripped off. In the USA, one can do their training at a cost of approx $30-40,000 via an affordable school or flying club. The academy style programs will run you about $60,000. This is why so many foreign students come here to train- it's so affordable. ($40,000 USD is $22,430 British pounds or $33,310 Euros BTW.) There is also the 4 year aviation university route and that will cost about $60K, possibly more, by your senior year.

This kind of money will cover the cost of getting you through your training (Private, Instrument, Commercial & Multi-Engine) and to the flight time level of about 250-300TT/Total Time. Unless you were one of the few lucky ones who get a regional job via their 'guaranteed interview' with an academy program, then you will not be a "full time commercial [airline] pilot" when you finish. What you will have is a Commercial license and be in debt while working odd low time flying jobs (like instructing or banner tow) to build up over 1,000 hours experience so you can meet the min flight experience required to get hired with a regional.
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 6:07 am

ComAir flight Academy which if I'm not mistaken is own my Delta. On their brochures, the cost to obtain all you raitings is about $60,000 dollars
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 6:18 am

Yes, it costs a lot. But like any career investment, it's worth it if you love it.
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 6:26 am

"If you go the military route, youll make at least 45,000 a year."

Yeah, then they own your ass for the next 10 years or whatever it is. You also have to go through like 3 years of BS before you actually see a plane.
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 6:28 am

I forgot to put in my way as well!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I plan to go to UND, I think for all the licenses they offer in addition to college expenses would be around $44,000, not too bad, but when you get hired you can just pay it all off whether it's an airline or a flight instructor.

 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 9:58 am

Being in NZ, it's not like we can join the militarty that easily. I applied and got rejected due to "undesirable subject choices".
So the only way for me now is through the civilian way which I am hoping to start next year. Costs about $75,000nz for a degree or diploma (350 -450 hours), and then you need to build up your hours to at least a thousand before getting considered from a regional.
So it is pretty expensive, but I know it'll pay off in the long run.

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Espion007
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 10:38 am

Yes, it costs a lot. But like any career investment, it's worth it if you love it.

well,thats very good.my family can afford to pay for flight school,and we may do something about it with the next 5 years.it sounds like its pretty expensive at first,but really pays off in the long run.Well im sure its not all that easy,but as a career option it is a choice thats possible for me.

anyhoo,if i do someday become a pilot,than what is,in your opinion the cheapest way to rack up flying hours? Big grin
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 10:51 am

I think when I got my CFI job I had spent somewhere around US$39,000 towards flying.
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 7:48 pm

This is area is where I miss sponsership.
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Thu May 20, 2004 10:15 pm

Letsseee i just got a summary of my student loans that i've taken out.

after 3 years of college and nearly 4 years of flying, my savings account was depleted, and i have about $49,000 in outstanding student loans that i don't have to start paying on for another year. It would be much more than this but grandma and mom are nice and are paying the interest for me until i graduate. Ohhh and going to grad school (which i am doing after i finish my undergrad) defers them till whenever yuo're out of graduate school. So i still have 3 years left, but i'll tack on another 12,000 or so this year, and then about 8,000 over two years at Iowa. So bottom line, learning to fly and getting private, instrument, commercial, CFI/II, and multi at a university runs you about $65,000.
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Fri May 21, 2004 12:01 am

What do you guys think of Comair Academy? I'm considering it very strongly.. Any comments?
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Fri May 21, 2004 12:20 am

as "Continental" said above UND is one of many schools here in the US which have programs for commercial pilots. My school is another Community College of Beaver County http://www.ccbc.edu/ have quite a bit of aviation fields, cost for pilots range in the same area as UND 40k-50k depending on flight time. you can get the full list of schools in the US from the FAA website.
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Fri May 21, 2004 12:37 am

I currently doing the ppl and if i go on (which i plan to do) to the the cpl it will cost about $100,000. As i am training on a Cirrus Sr20. But the cpl can be done for as little as $40,000 in full time college. Check this college out: http://www.wmich.edu/aviation/index.htm Airlines like BA & Aer Lingus sent there pilots for training there.
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Fri May 21, 2004 1:59 am

its all FUN!  Smile

Admit it, if it was any easier then it wouldn't be a challenge! To mix a challenge with a pleasure over a desired job, it must be the best feeling once you acheive your goal.

Im currently going down the whole pay as you go system (modular route) since i dont have a rich mummy and daddy, i gotta work 5 days a week, and pay for my flying on a monthly basis! may take me longer, but worth it in the end.

Ive done alot of figures, and ive estimated to spend a good £35,000 in the next 3 years on training. (Still in PPL Stage)

Once ive acheived my hours, acheived my ATPL's, then ill get down on my knees to my bank manager, insisting i need £15,000 to pay for my CPL/IR and FI ratings....after that, stage 1 is complete! still got stage 2 (hour building) stage 3 (trying to find employment!)

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RE: DCA/Comair Academy

Fri May 21, 2004 8:08 am

"What do you guys think of Comair Academy? I'm considering it very strongly.. Any comments?"

The place to get info on the Delta Connection Academy, formerly known as the Comair Academy, is the message board for pilots at www.FlightInfo.com

In peticular, here is an interesting statistic:
DCA claims: “Even in today’s job market, 97% of our graduates are hired as First Officers!*”

The asterisk * small print at the bottom of ads reads: “* 728 out of 754 students who completed the entire program through August 2003”. Wow, that is fantastic, don’t you know? DCA has been in business since 1987, which is 16 years. If you divide 728 by that 16 years you only get 45.5 students per year, or 3 students per month on average, that graduate. This means less than 6% of their students make it as First Officers. Do you really want to spend all that money to attend DCA, knowing that only 6% or less of the attending students are hired as First Officers?"

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26460
 
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RE: Costs Of Becoming A Pilot

Fri May 21, 2004 8:18 am

1. Get your private at a local flying club, then go elsewhere.

2. If you find in getting your private that you're a natural at it, then look for an ab initio program.

3. If it doesn't come easy, couple it with a community college program and live at home and use the grants and loans to offset some of the cost of training, stay at the same local flying clud that you started and if you're around long enough they'll probably let you instruct.

4. If all else fails, pursue other options. I started at a local club, but ab initio was just getting going when I entered and the gurantees weren't really gurantees. Heck, RJ's weren't even off the ground yet. There were no real fast track programs like there are now. I opted to pay for multiple under-grad and graduate degrees as opposed to flight trainign and it has paid off. Had there been ab initio like there is today, I may have selected that route, but I weighed the option of having a career out of college that paid well, or being a flight instructor for peanuts. With the condition many of the airlines are in right now, I think in the end I won out. Things are different today so it's up to you what you decide to do.

In all, depending on which way you go about it it's probably going to run you between $40k and $70k.