cjuniel
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9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 9:50 am

It's been almost three years since the terrorist attacks here in the states. Security lines seem to be getting longer daily. For those of us that fly frequently, do you feel any safer now than you felt in 2001 prior to the attacks?

My personal thoughts.....Security, especially in the busiest airports (Atlanta, Chicago, DFW, LAX, Denver, etc) is a damn joke. Prior to 9/11, I can't recall ever waiting in the security line more than 10 minutes. I have flown through several airports this year, and waited in line for security a MINIMUM of 30 minutes each time. The security personnel seem incompetent for the most part. They are no more skilled than the contract personnel that ran security prior to 9/11. Coming back to DC from LAX a few months ago, they shut down the security lanes for Terminal 7 because they THOUGHT that someone slipped through security. I never felt unsafe flying, but I am biased because it has always been my main mode of transit for trips over 300 miles. The forum's thoughts?
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 9:58 am

I think the United States and to a lesser extent, the world, is safer post-9/11, slightly in part to new security rules but mostly because of the cabin crew and passengers. Any one who tries to hijack a plane in the next 25 years is going to get beaten to a pulp. Why would you not fight? You know these people are out to kill you, so either try to save yourself or have a 100% chance of dying.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 9:59 am

I'm a very frequent flier who workis in the security business and I can tell you that airport security is an absolute joke. The security checkpoints regularly miss objects, the operators of the systems are often poorly trained and poorly paid. Some airports are using wretchedly kludged-together systems that barely do the minimum.

Example: I took my laptop bag through security at the airports dozens of times, when I went through the US Capitol screening they found a screwdriver wedged at the bottom that the TSA screeners had missed repeatedly. Their opinion of the TSA was pretty damning.

Think of them as passenger inconvenience points.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 9:59 am

I have a prosthetic leg and I fly a lot both internationally and domestically. I was always disappointed with security in the US before 9/11, because I rarely received a thorough screening. I would just wave my hand and say "I have a prosthetic" and they would wand me for two seconds and let me pass. In Europe I would get a really thorough screening and I always felt much safer because of it. In the US I could have disassembled a gun and shoved it inside the leg before 9/11...now clearly they would find it. I feel much safer, as world security is now up to European standards(Or most European countries I should say).

I also never liked the idea of non-passengers coming to the gates. It made terminal too crowded(Especially DTW Davey and UA at ORD).
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:05 am

Despite the odd smart-arse journalist managing to smuggle a knife through security then trumpeting it on the front pages all the next day - I have to say, since 9/11 I've felt much more safe at any airport I've visited (the one possible exception being REU, where the Ryanair staff didn't even bother checking passports as people boarded, concerned as they were with the obviously more important task of taking off 25 minutes early.)

I don't know if this is because I'm simply more aware of the security after what happened, but to me the procedures seem much more rigorous. Nearly every time I have flown since 9/11, the security staff have had hand held body scanners as well as the normal walk-through ones. I've been stopped loads of times and searched, but I don't mind - it's all in the name of safety and I'm quite happy about it. I don't ever remember being stopped before 9/11.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:32 am

How about want to bring visitors back into the gate areas or the concourses again. I just don't want any wait for long time after 3 years now. It's time to make reinstates with the visitors back into the concourses. I got very good news to all US Airports will allowed go through into the concourse again and this is not restricted areas either.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:43 am

I generally don't mind, but sometimes the security guards can be real arse-holes.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:51 am

I agree ScottysAir-

We need to let people back into the gate areas. It's nice to pick up a loved one or send them off from this area and watch their plane come in or leave from here. Also, for aviation enthusiasts like us, it's awesome to be close to the planes and stroll the terminal to see all the aircraft.

It would be safe under the security they have now, though time-consuming to get through at the same time.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:53 am

That question brings other questions. Is the security & screening performed on a passenger in Cody WY or Wausau WI, or Kingman AZ, of worse quality or better quality, or same quality as that performed on a passenger in Atlanta or Denver? A passenger going through security at most small airports will not go through screening again, which may include 2 or 3 transfer points. I have gone thorugh some very small DL connection stations and their security equipment in place is "ancient". Is the "sterile" screened passenger who went through screening & security in Cody, as sterile as the passenger who went through screening in Salt Lake City?
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:58 am

I don't feel more or less safe flying than I did before 9/11.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 11:07 am

Yeah I definetyl feel alot safer for sure.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 11:09 am

I'm no road warrior but I've done a decent amount of flying after 9/11 and I still don't have a TSA horror story. I've had no real problems except for a couple of officious agents. The most I've ever had to wait for security is about 10 or 15 minutes. I feel about as safe as I did before 9/11. To me, customs and immigration procedures don't seem to be that different. I'd like to see some new technology implemented to help speed things up. Invision scanners sound good although I'm no expert on security. In some airports, it is a bit of a pain to check in and then take your luggage clear across the terminal to the scanners.

The big surprise for me is how beefed up security was in Japan. Arriving there wasn't a problem but leaving Kansai was a bit of a hassle. This was surprising to me considering how Japan is known to be efficient. It took about 45 minutes to wait for security. They searched through all of your checked luggage by opening it and looking around with you right there. After that, you were let into the check-in counter. At least the agents were professional about it and did the best job they could as they usually do in Japan. I hear they're still doing this for international departures.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 11:14 am

The sterile areas in the airports are governed by the same rules, but the level of security is certainly different. Smaller airports have a lower budget for access control and video installation and it shows. There is also a more relaxed attitude for the people behind the scenes. I think that complacent attitude is why Atta went to portland Maine to start the trip that would end at South Tower WTC.

There has been some improvement, but there are still so many holes and things that drive you nuts that it is kinda scary.

The larger airports have made some big improvements, but they still have a long way to go.

And those smart aleck newspeople? In most cases they're not doing anything a terrorist couldn't do. And if they're successful, then that's something we should be worried about. And if they're not then they won't be back on the air to annoy us...
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 1:16 pm

I think people are obsessed with airplanes, they aren't the only thing Terrorists could go after. Even with terrorism, flying is safer than driving across country. I'll put up with a screening in order to fly  Smile
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 4:45 pm

Apart from the increased delays at airports, I've never felt any different, security wise, before or after the events of the 11th September.
I flew three days later here in Australia and didn't even think about it despite everyone still being shocked by the events.
Previously mentioned was a concern over non passengers being allowed in the gates which is common practice here in Australia in domestic terminals.Firstly I'm not concerned by this because these people have no bording pass or tickets so they can't and won't be able to board an aircraft, and secondly in order to get to the gate they would have passed through the exact same security that I had to.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 9:10 pm

Depends on where I fly to.

Within Europe, the safety is just as good as before. (although I have to admit the rather anal-retentive compulsory switching on of laptops in germany is not really enjotyable.)

Transatlantic, I'd feel less safe, due to the risk of armed air marshals or armed pilots.

But hey, everyone has their personal likes and dislikes.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:15 pm

I doubt I would go so far as to say I am safer since 9-11, just a whole lot more awareness on the ground and in the air. The TSA is a farce. The TSA does not have enough headcount to do the job with all the layoffs/terminations/resignings yet these people remain on the manning sheets, so their local numbers will look good (that came from a reliable TSA source). Lines can be lengthy at both checkpoints in Term A with only one lane out of 3 or 4 open, due to no manning and the overall refusal to hire additional folks. Items have gotten through the screeners that shouldn't have gotten through and no one seems to mind or care, because after an investigation, it happens again shortly thereafter. I'm sure RDU isn't the only city it's happening to, so it does concern me that honestly nothing has gotten better, but maybe has created more general public and employee awareness.

If you want better security maybe we should have the Isrealis come in and so the military how to do it. They haven't had one single incident happen in 20+ years since the 1st hijacking they had.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:20 pm

Nope.

If anything with the TSA running the show the situation is worse.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 10:39 pm

i would say i dont feel any different, but since i am more aware in every situation i am place, i ultimately say i feel less safe.

i doubt security has been vastly improved, but since i am more aware of it now, i do feel less safe.

the only domestic place i feel i have had a competent screening is everytime i go through DEN. i dont know why, maybe it is because i have been caught there so many times and had many extra "special" security screenings. two weeks ago i was going through wearing the EXACT SAME THING i wore when flying out of LGA. yet i set the alarms off, my bags were swabbed and inspected (turned out my building id set off the detectors) but why didnt it do anything at LGA when none of the variables had changed?

the security at nyc airports in unnerving to say the least.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 11:27 pm

Definetly airtravel is safer today from terrorism because of heightened or the "impression" of heightened security, however the most important tool against terrorism is public vigalence.

Everytime I fly now I watch the people, who's walking near the cockpit etc. I gurantee im not the only one, vigalence is the greatest deterent.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sat May 22, 2004 11:46 pm

I dont feel any safer since 9/11. Many of the TSA screeners are the former Globe screeners, theres no difference to me. The one thing that I love is that only people that are flying can go through the checkpoint. Non travelers are a pain in the @ss, they're always bugging you about the flight, not to mention clogging the lines to the checklpoint.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 12:15 am

however the most important tool against terrorism is public vigalence

Exactly! Well said...and that's why I feel safer, because if something starts 'happening' in-flight, people aren't going to let the crew deal with it, they're going to do whatever they can to stop it. We can thank the heroes of UA93 for that, and later the passengers on the AA flight who stopped that moron with a bomb in his shoe.

As far as the T.S.A. goes, I was disturbed by what someone said about them still being poorly paid and trained? Wasn't the whole idea of the 9/11 fee and setting up the T.S.A. and eliminating incompetent screwball outfits like Argenbright that hired felons and illegals who couldn't speak a lick of English? Weren't these new T.S.A. employees supposed to get better training and a nice raise? I dont' mind paying a security fee, if it's going towards improving security.

Personally, I think the agent at the ticket counter who issues the boarding pass is really the one in charge. They're the ones who need the best training and be able to spot suspicious people. They're the first line of defense, and if they don't like what's going on, they don't issue a boarding pass, plain and simple. Two months before 9/11, at PDX, I had a UA ticket counter agent who didn't like me at all, and I wasn't sure I was going to get a boarding pass!

As for letting non-passengers in the boarding areas....NO WAY! NOT EVER AGAIN, as far as I'm concerned. I hate crowds, so that's probably part of it, but I never liked getting to the gate area and not being able to sit down because there's 10 family members seeing off 1 person for a quick 2 hour flight to Vegas...give me a break! The lines at the airport are long enough, thanks...we don't need more people trying to get through the same line at rush hour! I passed through C/D at IAD last August, and it was PACKED, and that was only ticketed folks!

Just my .02.


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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 12:33 am

Yes and no.

Yes because about 9 months after 9/11, while connecting in JFK I got a bb gun that resembled an ak-47 (which i bought at moscow's WW2 museum) through security with no problem, yet when they found a pair of manicure scissors in our bags which was bought near ostankino and went crazy.

No becuase the chances of a hijacking are slim to none. I really concentrate more on where im going than whats going to happen on a flight. Plus, who in the world is going to do anything on a plane now if they are thirsty,hungry,and tired from the lack of service since 9/11 and the tiny legroom?  Big thumbs up
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 12:36 am

Well my dad and me almost always fly United First and I think its soooooo retardard that they've removed the curtains separating United First from United Economy. I mean come on maybe the curtains will actually PREVENT the terrorists from getting into the cabin? But year even if the terrorist tried to get into the cockpit they'd have to battle with us, you what what I mean? And us Americans won't take their $#!% this time around!!!

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 1:10 am

Hottie, the reason the curtains were removed is so that more of the cabin is visible to the crew.

I flew on 9/13/2001 & several times since then, both soft seat and jump seat. I've always felt safe flying. I guess what everyone has to understand is that until the terrorists actually began taking control of the aircraft they did NOTHING wrong (except conspiracy). The laws & regualtions in place did not prohibit the items they brought onto the aircraft. The standard operating procedures that had been drilled into us was to immediately comply with terrorists. The terrorists played on these rules and procedures and exploited them. That is why the terrorists gained control of 4 aircraft. It was not due to lax security. It was due to lax regulations and procedures at the time. The security complanies got a bum rap.

I still feel safe. The next attack, and there will be one or two or three, etc., will come from another direction. We have to start thinking more creative and be more vigilant.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 1:23 am

I completely agree with AA757first.

I feel safer, not because of the intrusive and overbearing security, not because the US and other governments want to know every detail of our lives before letting us fly, not because of any change in status of security staff, but because we, the passengers (and the crew) are never going to let it happen again.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 1:34 am

I flew on 9/13/2001

In the US??? IIRC, airspace wasn't reopened until the day after, 9/14/2001.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 1:55 am

DAL763,

That is just a plain silly comment. Millions of Arabs and Muslims flew before 9/11 and nothing like that ever happened before. To not allow Arab people on planes would be like not letting black people into a certain neighborhood because the four robberies committed in that area were carried out by black men. I do agree with racial profiling and CAPPSII (sp?) to certain people. For example, I think a 25 year old fit Arab man, checking no luggage on a one-way ticket should have extra security checks. But not allowing him to board a plane? No way!

Also, please, I know all of this stuff I talked about is a touchy subject, and I have no problem with intelligent debate, but no flaming, please.

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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 1:56 am

I don't feel more or less safe flying than I did before 9/11.

Agreed! I dont see very much of a change in security with the exception of two things: Feds hiring a bunch of circus fools with the IQ less than 20 and the extra long lines at the security checkpoints.

Now what do I mean by the IQ of 20? Well I shouldnt have to say this but one example is.......TSA agent screening himself to see what his brain looks like...is that supposed to make us feel safer? Not!! Need I say more??
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 2:11 am

Hotienoy1989,

It wont be just you Americans.. you can count on all of us to stop this if we ever see it happening again, in any part of the world. We may have our differences over political responses, but you can be sure any passenger, regardless of their nationality, will do whatever they can if we are unfortunate enough to see an attempted re-run of 9/11.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 2:58 am

AA 110 departed ORD to FCO about 3 hours late on Thursday 9/13/2001. I believe we were the 2nd or 3rd aircraft to depart ORD that day. I have some pictures of me in the terminal with no one else in the shot. The photos show the length of the terminal and just little old me reading a newspaper.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 3:06 am

I feel much safer. And we do not need to allow visitors down in the gate area. This was something stupid to begin with. There is no point of allowing them past secuirty just to say goodbye to thier lovedones. That can be done at home, on the way to the airport, or at curbside. The only people that should be allowed past the security checkpoints are ticked pax's, one and I mean one parent/relative of an UM or an elderly person flying alone that needs assistance, and the people that work at the airport or for the airlines. Thats it.

And if they open PIT up for pax's to go beyond the checkpoints to shop and eat, there should be secondary x-ray machines beyond the shops that ONLY ticked pax's or the others I mentioned above will be allowed to pass through.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 4:49 am

Hey Cjuniel...... I think you should ask this question to Bin Laden  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

stop terrorism  Smile
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 4:59 am

I don't feel any safer, or any more at risk.

I too feel TSA is a joke, and all too often, many of the "new" measures that have been enacted since 9/11 respond to the symptoms and not the disease.

 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 5:01 am

Generally yes as to something like a 9/11 event. Today even the accident rate has dropped to historical lows in the US. Now I would be more worried about a ground to air missle being used by an terrorist.
I flew EWR-LHR-EWR in April 2002, and only saw minor changes like putting my jacket through the x-ray, but it did seem more through, serious, taking more time and more cops were around. In December 2003, it was much more through on a flight EWR-SJU-British V.I.,-SJU-EWR, including the shoe check. On departure from British V.I., was a through hand and x-ray check of the bag. The security on a LGA-DCA-LGA shuttle flight in Fall 2003 was much more than my last such flights in December 2000. I have had the through '3rd degree' check out done to me at LGA and DTW back in January. There is also more control of airport boundries and of those monitoring the movement of a/c (like our spotter friends here now banned at many airports areas and areas adjacent to airports)
Contrast that with my my experience about 2 weeks before 9/11/01 EWR-BOS-EWR on CO. I had a box cutter, office shears, and other office supplies in my carry on for a work assignment at a warehouse outside of Boston. At EWR, they were more worried about my cell phone, and had to show it worked as a cell phone. At Boston, they gave my stuff a second glance, but nothing more.
There are still weaknesses under the TSA, including the allegation that they cannot pull for '3rd degree' checks of too many of 'certain people' i.e. blacks, 'arabs', etc. taking discresion from the police/TSA agents, although they missed Richard Reid in the UK. But the total ban and confiscation of many tons of questionable objects as well as at least the appearance of more strict security can and does have an intemindating affect on those who are stupid enought to consider a hijacking today. I am quite sure there are ways we don't know about and shouldn't know about as to the tracking of many passangers who's names, countries of birth, past flight patterns and other factors raise questions and get more scruteny.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 8:51 pm

If the US should have done it's homework before 9/11, it already would have been safer.
But when people thinking "within the US everything is fine and enemies are only coming from outside US", you can't get good security standard.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 9:27 pm

I don't know if anyone else has said this but, I never felt unsafe in the first place  Smile.

 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Sun May 23, 2004 9:57 pm

oaringadi,

Who carried out the deadliest terrorist attack on US soil prior to 9-11? Last time I checked the Oklahoma City bombing what carried out by a bunch of angry white guys. Terror knows no color. If you hate something or someone enough to do something like that it can happen.

Do I feel any safer? No. Is it something that would have never crossed my mind before 9-11 and does now? Yes. I agree with the comments regarding vigilance. I'm sitting at STL right now, across from the terminal at work and I would never hesitate, and haven't hesitated to call the authorities if something isn't right or I have a car parked along our perimeter fence that doesn't belong. I know that every time I've called it has more than likely been someone that was just spotting, or had an intrest in aircraft like I do, but if you're where you don't belong you should leave, and I should do my part to make sure you do becuase I have no idea what your intentions may be.
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Mon May 24, 2004 1:07 am

I agree with all those who've said it's the passengers (sorry, pax?) who make air travel safer post 9/11. I'm not a regular flyer but when I have flown, I've noticed I'm not the only one making eye contact with other passengers and giving them a "once over" either while boarding or after I've found my seat.

An example of passenger awareness occurred not too long ago on a NW flight out of LAX bound for DTW. We'd only been airborne for 10 minutes or so and a passenger across from me, a young man in his 20's who had an aisle seat, bent down to untie his shoes with what turned out to be the innocent intention of getting comfortable for the 4 hour flight we had ahead of us. Not only could I literally feel almost everyone in the area go on alert as they craned their necks to watch his hands but several seat belts could be heard being unsnapped as well. Once the young man had removed his shoes and went back to reading his magazine, our belts were re-snapped and things went back to normal.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Mon May 24, 2004 1:11 am

3 years later and I don't feel even slightly safer, but I have never been even slightly afraid to board an aircraft. The skies weren't dangerous before, and they aren't now. But I'm sure this topic is pointed toward security measures, and on that issue, I think they are a waste of time. Just an inconvenience because they don't address the issue at hand. 9/11 could happen almost as easily today as it did back then. But I'm glad they are protecting against all the other threats.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Mon May 24, 2004 5:01 am

I think it would be silly to feel unsafe to fly because of terrorists. The risk is tiny to the passengers.

9/11 would not be as easy to happen now, because the pilots back then tried to cooperate and negotiate, what they were trained to do.

However, I could imagine other ways of commandering large planes, and such attacks could pose a serious threat to the air travel industry and off course lead to devastating levels of damage on the grounds.
 
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RE: 9/11. 3 Years Later. Do You Feel Safer?

Mon May 24, 2004 10:10 am

I feel much more safer. First PAX would never let an hostage take over happen to begin with. Second we scan checked luggage and I have seen people get cought with having clorox in their bag and they threw it away and took down there passport number and everything. The Skies are much safer from Terrorist Attacks but no one must ever let their guard down.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)

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