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Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sat May 22, 2004 6:19 pm

Swiss has now 7 A340 in its fleet. 2 additional ones should be delivered already, but I haven`t seen one yet.

I will miss the MD-11, as it is my favorite aircraft. I hope the A340 won`t be delivered and Swiss will keep the 3 MD-11, they have at the moment.
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sat May 22, 2004 6:23 pm

They are in TLS, I think JMH will be delivered very soon.
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gerardo
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 1:59 am

As far as I remember, the last 2 A343 should be delivered May/June. By that date, the MD-11 will be withdrawn from the fleet. Nice looking birds, but too inefficient.

As a frequent ZRH spotter, I'm glad, they've chosen the A343  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 4:24 pm

According to jp airline-fleets (03/04 edition), HB-JMH and HB-JMI will be delivered in a two-class configuration: C48 Y212. Is that true? And if it's true, which routes will get the two-class A340?
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 4:32 pm

Gerardo
Are you sure, that by end of JUN, LX will have withdrawn it's M11? In the CRS, the ORD flight is loaded at least till SEP04 opt with M11. Could it be a mistake or are there any delays in the 343 delivery?
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ka
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 6:20 pm

Ndebele:
When LX still had 13 A343 on order it was planned that 7 come in 3-class config and the remaining 6 in 2-class config. To my knowledge the idea has been dropped since only 9 A343 will join the fleet as of now.

Swissgabe:
I am also surprised to now see the MD11 flying ORD over the summerschedule. I don´t believe there is a delay in the A343 deliveries. But there was the idea of reconfiguring the A332 with the new interior (at least the new C-class) and they might continue to use the MD11 while one after the other gets rebuild (Just an idea).

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 6:50 pm

Gabe: that was at least reported not so long ago by people, whoe are more than close to this business. But, the last day of operations of the last LX MD-11 is indeed a bit of a mistery. It's well possible, that 2 MD-11 will still be operated after June, as for example for charter flights to Portugal during Euro 2004.

Anyway, the last 2 A343 are due in June. I didn't hear of any delay so far.

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 7:22 pm

txs Ka and Gerardo ...

hope the M11 will stay some extra days in ZRH ...
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supersonic78
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 8:41 pm

I guess HB-JMH already joined the fleet... and HB-JMI will follow in june...
but as far as i am informed they will keep one MD-11 til end of 2004 !
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 8:49 pm

I guess HB-JMH already joined the fleet...

No, it's planned to be delivered from TLS after cabin reconfiguration by Sogerma Toulouse. Date not yet known.

HB-JMI is planned to be delivered on 27th May. Of course subject to changes...
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 8:56 pm

Are these brand new, or second hand?
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 23, 2004 9:00 pm

GKirk:
They are brand new.

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Wed May 26, 2004 8:24 am

you are right unique, just noticed at work that HB-JMH is still missing....
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Sun May 30, 2004 10:49 pm

Well, HB-JMH is now finally in ZRH - landed from TLS at 1422 local today (30 May)
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Mon May 31, 2004 5:41 pm

The last MD-11 flying will be HB-IWE, Whiskey End as we call her! Last flight 31. October, and she will leave ZRH in December

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:42 am

Actually, I've been wondering how exactly LX is trying to accomplish its current list of A343 cities and schedules with only 9 of the type...

ZRH-BKK/SIN - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-HKG - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-NRT - requires 1 a/c
ZRH-JNB - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-GRU - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-LAX - requires 1 a/c

That's already 1 more than they have! All these destinations above require the A343 and cannot be substituted with the A332 due to range issues. I guess that's why they're keeping the M11 until the start of the winter schedule and presumably one or some of these routes get reduced frequencies in order to squeeze all of them in (my bet is that LAX either gets the axe or is reduced)
 
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:50 am

Sorry for getting slightly off-topic here... Where are the MD-11s going after Swiss withdraws them? Are they going straight into storage or has another carrier snapped them up?

Please don't tell me they're going to be scrapped...  Sad
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:53 am

HB-JMH was officially delivered to Swiss at 28 April 2004. But it is possible that the aircraft was still at TLS for a couple of weeks for interior outfitting or other checks. Air France and Iberia has also a couple of aircraft in stroage after the delivery

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:05 am

Panamair:

Swiss has reduced the frequencies and adjusted them to seasonal demand.

ZRH-BKK/SIN (Summer: 6x/w Winter: daily)
ZRH-HKG (S: daily W: 6x/w)
ZRH-NRT (S: 6x/w W: 5x/w)
ZRH-JNB (S: 6x/w W: daily)
ZRH-GRU (5x/w year round)
ZRH-LAX (S: 5x/w W: 6x/w)

 
N754PR
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:18 pm

HB-JMH is in Hong Kong today, June 3rd.
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:29 pm

N754pr, ZRH-HKG-ZRH is the 1st commercial service for HB-JMH! Lucky you...
 
JJMNGR
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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:31 pm

Dear Panamair,

It is possible to change A343 for A332 on a route to GRU on direct service. TAM uses its A332 to Europe on direct service.

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RE: Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?

Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:54 pm

JJMNGR,

LX A332 have no crew rest area. Therefore they cannot be operated on very long routes. It's not a range issue. Although the A343 has more range than the A332.

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