schweizair
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DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 6:07 am

I've been to DIA twice and it always blew me away. Plenty of space to walk, nice design and the shopping isn't bad either. Even better, there's plenty of room for the planes so you won't be stuck at your gate if another plane is blocking the route to the runway. There's also tons of room inside. Even in the most crowded areas, I didn't come within a foot of anyone because there's so much room available. I loved every second I spent at DIA. Are there any others out there who have great/bad stories to share? Do you thinks DIA is one of the best airports in the country? Why or why not? I'd like to hear your side of the story.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 6:11 am

Something like this?


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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 6:15 am

DIA is a great airport now granted I live in Denver too but the only drawback is that of weather i.e. blizzards and tornados other than that its one of the nicest cleanest airports I've been too.. now my question since I'm new here how and where is the best spot for spotting??
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 6:29 am

I'm partial to it as well....


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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 7:27 am

DIA is a great airport in terms of the airside facilities.
Concourses are real nice, gate areas, the train, etc.
Never have problems except in extreme weather conditions in terms of capacity constraints in terms of the runway capacity.

Only negatives I have are the rediculous set-up with the various ground transportation pick up points, the massive security lines that happen sometimes, why are there 10 lanes on one end yet only 3-4 are ever open?
Plus the fact that is a 10 mile drive in the middle of nowhere from I-70. Its not an airport that you can be running late to and still catch a flight, you need to build in plenty of time before departure.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 7:34 am

I'm obviously a bit biased, But it's the best Airport in the country IMO.


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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 7:38 am

DIA's facilities are top quality. I would put it in the top 5 no doubt. The glass walls, the beautiful concourses. Its got a good variety of restaurants, and all the F9 planes make it really cool! Spotting from the bridge is cool too.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 7:39 am

I can say nothing bad about DIA, it is by far the best airport in the USA and one of the best in all the world. I know of no other airport with a massive art collection like DIA has, and how can you beat a Lear 35 hanging from the ceiling! A few of you have mentioned weather but I would say that DIA is better equipped than any airport in the world for bad weather. We have huge runways and the new one is the largest in the US and I think 2nd largest in the world. It takes a lot to shut DIA down. I love it and am so happy that I get to fly back everytime I go out of town. The only bad thing about living in a place that has such a beautiful airport is that anytime I go anywhere IM always disappointed when I arrive because all the other airports in America are small and dirty! (LAX term. B? I think, well the F9 one, that place looks like a nasty public restroom) Well as you can tell I love DIA and there is no better airport for me!
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 7:49 am

For the past 10 years or so ever since they opened DEN (formerly known as DIA) I have been trying to go through there. When I go to the Denver area, I always go to Centenniel Field.
Finally! Next month I am taking a trip on F9 that will allow me a connection in DEN so I can see the place for myself. Unfortunately, Frontier has me on a very tight connection so I won't have time to shop or explore the terminal. Crying


So it looks like the only way I will be able to see DEN is to take a trip where my final destination is DEN.

I am very happy to see that they remembered the Jeppesen name, it has such a place in the history of aviation! Everytime I fly an instrument approach I see their name!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 8:51 am

PSU,

DIA's location is hardly a negative. There was a time when there was nothing around Washington Dulles and very little around DFW (the last two major airports to open in the US prior to DIA). A Denver native, while to many visitors to Denver it may seem out of the way, the area around DIA has built up SUBSTANTIALLY since the initial announcement came to build the airport in the late 1980s. It normally takes 10-20 years to build up an area around a new airport, since most new airports are built where there is available land - in the middle of nowhere. Give it a few more years.

And I am biased also, DIA is one of the most beautiful airports in the world - circus tent roof and all.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 9:18 am

DIA is a great airport. It's really my home away from home as i'm there so much. It's easily the nicest airport in the U.S next to MCO in my opinion.


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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 9:24 am

Yeah, I agree about DEN, it's a rather nice place. The only odd thing is the lack of LCD screens which you can find at ORD on UA. I made a connection about 3 weeks ago there, and the most notable thing right off the plane was the amount of space. It is huge, the ceilings are tall, the gate areas are big, it is nice. I would've explored more, but I had to run to catch my next flight. I still tink the most beautiful airports in the US have to be LAX or MCO.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 9:26 am

I still tink the most beautiful airports in the US have to be LAX

LAX? How-so? Maybe it's great for spotting, but other than the re-tooled AA terminal, the place is one big congested dump. It should be leveled and rebuilt.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 10:59 am

I just like the whole airport in general, not just the terminals. I like the outside a lot, all the walkways, the great landscaping, it's just really nice. I thought the UA terminal was a little old, but it wasn't bad. The TBIT is great, the international check-in area was pretty cool to see despite the horrible congestion.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 11:10 am

Denver is a fantastic airport. It is my home base airport and the first few times I flew into I felt like I was landing in Kansas except for the mountains off to the west. The only thing I don't like is the time it takes to get bags from C to the terminal. Every time I fly an airline into C it takes nearly 20 minutes for the bags to come it seems. Oh well. That just gives you more time to explore and take photos.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 11:45 am

I agree; Denver is probably the best airport in the US from a passenger point of view, at least a connecting passenger.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 11:55 am

I agree. DIA is by far my favorite airport in the United States. Anytime that I need to transfer...which is basically every trip when you come out of Des Moines!...I try to schedule through Denver. It is a beautiful airport and a beautiful area.

 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 12:15 pm

Denver is a very nice airport, and is one the nicest more modern ones. The only gripe I have with it is that it's in the middle of nowhere. I know eventually they expect development to grow around it, but that will just add to commute time. Stapleton was very close to the city. DIA is something like 20 miles from the city. Also, coming from the South, the 470 tollway, although nice and empty, sucks when you're dropping someone off ($10 RT).
Other than that, DIA is really modern, easy to navigate around (the multitude of moving sidewalks really help), and a great airport.
 
cjuniel
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 12:15 pm

Continental,

United just installed those LCD screens at O'Hare in the past year or two. I know Delta has a slew of them in Atlanta, and also here in Washington at National. I wouldn't be surprised to see United upgrade the facilities at DIA in the next few years once the bankruptcy is behind them.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 12:56 pm

i know other people have commented when we have these dia threads but dia has a distinctive smell when you enter,,,,unlike any airport i have ever been to except asia
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 1:59 pm

Cjuniel: I guess so. Actually, I saw them in 2001 when I flew MSP-ORD-MUC. MSP got them in the past year or two, it's nice. The UA ones are really nice, they show the type of aircraft, IFE on the flight, meal service, amount of frequent flier miles earned, times, reasons if delay, shows an actual photo of aircraft type, and the coolest thing, it shows a landmark such as a skyscraper that is in the destination you're travelling to. I'm not sure if NWAs have this, I'll check when I fly to Orlando in July.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 2:01 pm

Uadc8contrail, Haha, that is the first time I have ever heard of that but now that I think about it DEN does have a distinct odor. Didn't they just upgrade the flight info screens in the terminal lately? Last year or so? If I remember correctly I was picking somebody up there last November or so and they had just installed them and were still getting them set up?

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 2:08 pm

dinker,
awesome arrival screens down by the claim area....now if mesa could update their flight arrivals then i would not be standing near the water area like a idiot...and i was just IM by another a.netter and he/she thinks its mold
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 2:18 pm

DIA is super efficient and built for the long-haul. From a business traveller perspective I applaud it since it is well designed, spacious, and clean. But, i just feel it lacks a soul. Nothing notable about it other than it's size. Which also keeps you from getting up close and personal with the planes. Maybe I'm jaded, being from Denver with the old Stapleton which was a sprawling exciting mess, and now living in Asia with lots of new airports and equally grand designs.

If I could, here is what I would do to make DIA more attractive:
- Add some trees, plants or gardens, inside or out, to make it more 'natural'.
- on Friday afternoons and evening, have a piano player or small jazz band play at one (upper) end of the vast security hall, to create a more lively mood pre-weekend.
- Add more dinosour/prehistoric decorations - these work well with Colorado themes.
- Rename the automated people move to the Silverton Express.
- More public lounging areas away from the gates, like Singapore and Hong Kong have.
- Roof top observation point (may take some years to see this again!)

A great airport yes, but not one to feel at home in.


 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 2:36 pm

Mold eh? Not what I was expecting the culprit to be but what can you say. Jet-lagged you have some good ideas to improve the airport. However I don't think the Jazz band would be such a good idea. The atmosphere would be great but it is pretty noisy in there due to the water falls. Not sure how well you would be able to hear them. Silverton Express, that would be really unique. Too bad they didn't think of some of these things.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 3:05 pm

- Add some trees, plants or gardens, inside or out, to make it more 'natural'.

Well they do have some vegetation around the train station, Silverton Express sounds so much cooler..., in C, but I do see what you mean. Personally, I think that the food selection is great in the terminal and on B, but A and C lack a little bit. But hey, my old hometown airport was MEM, so who am I to complain?
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 3:11 pm

Jet-lagged, good ideas. However, Colorado has no culture to share with travelers in DEN! Just kidding... but actually there aren't many interesting cultural things around here, except maybe skiing? Jazz would fit well in New Orleans, Chicago. Just isn't much culture to come by in this part of the country.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 3:22 pm

silverton express is a great idea for the train....being they put in those mining things along the side of the wall going from the main term to concourse a and i think concourse b.........
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Sun May 23, 2004 3:35 pm

The arrival monitors near baggage claim are a big improvement indeed. They're desperately needed on the concourses -- at least A, anyway -- where the CRTs are showing their age and more than one was irritatingly scrolling slowly and making it hard to read.

DIA was brilliantly designed and is a terrific facility. The City of Denver's upkeep of the facility, though, has been less than stellar. Signage is inconsistent and in many cases is literally slapped on haphazardly, the passenger dropoff area on the Ground Transportation level on the Terminal West side is simply filthy, etc. I agree that it needs a tree or something outside the terminal -- come on, 10 years later and no flowers or grass??

Granted, there's a lot of cash that's needed to keep a facility like that in pristine shape, but DEN should have thought of that ahead of time. I don't want to see DIA fall into disrepair -- it's such a great facility, it deserves the maintenance and upkeep.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 12:08 am

No Culture? Puh-leez! There are the Broncos, and Coors and . . . OK, yeah, skiing, and . . . . well the mountains are great. Hmmm, funny that there is so little specific to point to but Denver is such a popular place! Skiing gets enough attention as it is, so I suggest that Coors install a not-so-micro brewery at that cavernous hall where the train arrives at Concourse B.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 1:15 am

For connecting passengers who never have to leave the concourse they arrive in I'm sure you think DIA is great. For us that are O&D passengers, the airport is a major pain.

It's too far away from the urban area. Pena Blvd is not fun during a winter storm. Parking is often a pain in the ass (just yesterday I had to wait over 25 minutes for the Pikes Peak shuttle). United's ticket counter is still understaffed resulting in long check in times. I've waited as long as 35 minutes to check in for a flight in the Premier/F/1K line before. Don't even get me started on the TSA. I'm tired of arguing with them about film not going through the x-ray. Talk about a bunch of minimum wage convicted felons and idiots...It was at DIA one of the TSA screeners took a ride through the x-ray machine to "see what he looked like inside". Several have been caught stealing property from passengers during the screening process. None of been fired over it. Then there's the airport train. There's no way to get to Concourse B or C without taking the train. If it's inoperative or extremely crowded, tough. Spaciousness? Yesterday morning when I arrived from IAD we had to wait 15 minutes for our gate to open up. It's not uncommon to have wheels up more than 20 minutes after pushback from the gate.

DIA may be great to look at and be spacious, but it's a pain for O&D traffic. I personally cannot stand flying in/out of Denver. And I do it often. Since I've moved to Denver in 2001 I have logged 56 roundtrips from this airport.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 3:14 am

If they had used mobile lounges instead of the underground train. . .  Big grin
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 3:56 am

However, if we really want to know where the "real" Heaven on Earth is, just watch the movie Field of Dreams:

Shoeless Joe (played by Ray Liotta): "Is this heaven?"
Ray (played by K. Costner): "No, it's Iowa."

 Smile Granted that they are saying that it is not heaven, but I still love those lines!
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 6:20 am

DEN is a real nice airport. My personal favorite is the hanging gardens of concourse C in the atrium where you catch the train. I also like the main terminal, although sometimes you can feel rather small walking around. They did add some trees, and I think they are removing the waterfall to add some seating for arriving passengers. It can be a madhouse down there during peak arrival times, and that is just about any time you arrive down there.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy The only bad parts are that there is no good spotting area, and it is about halfway to Omaha. I haven't had any problems with the TSA security lines. I usually take the skybridge to concourse A, and the longest I've ever had to wait is ten minutes.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 6:45 am

"- Rename the automated people mover to the Silverton Express."

This makes little sense IMO...Silverton is located in western Colorado about 250 miles away from Denver...Silverton is too far away to be associated with Denver IMO...

"Also, coming from the South, the 470 tollway, although nice and empty, sucks when you're dropping someone off ($10 RT)."

Same thing applies to us coming from the northern areas around Broomfield/Boulder...the NW Parkway/E-470 has cut the travel time to DIA almost in half, but we also get jacked $10 r/t, so its somewhat of a tradeoff...personally I think I'll pay the $10 to guarantee a virtually stress free drive since no one ever uses the E-470/NW Parkway, and taking it to DIA from the north means you skip over half of Pena Blvd. when you get to DIA as well...

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 7:33 am

I personally miss Stapleton, and although not easy I have grown to like DIA. It is a long drive and the cops are nazis. Although you want to see chaos, just wait untell the trains break. It's a nice airport but as far as spotting its one of the worst I Could Possible Imagine.

Personally I will take the side of 26L at stapelton anyday over DIA.
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 8:46 am

Jet-lagged
I cannot believe that you don't think DIA has soul! Have you ever walked across the bridge connecting A concourse? Did you not see the history of flight in the C concourse? What about the hanging gardens? As I mentioned before DIA is the second largest air exhibit in Colorado, that is a big deal for an airport. I think that you should take another look at DIA

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 9:12 am

"Gardens, grass, and trees" needed to make DIA look natural?

I have lived here all my life and have something so to say about that. That isn't the climate here... Colorado is a high altitude desert. Water issues are HUGE in Colorado. I doubt a "greening up" around the airport will ever happen any time soon.
 
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 12:03 pm

den airport workers,
does dia still play the indian spiritual music on the a concourse????discovery wings ran a story on it one time about how the airport is on indian burial grounds and the tradeoff was dia play the music to apease the indians
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dinker225
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 12:16 pm

I havn't ever heard any indian spiritual music playing. They obviously don't play it loud enough to hear if they do play it. I'm finding out lots of stuff from this thread.

Dinker
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 12:24 pm

Uadc8, never heard that story before, that's a new one on me, but then again, I don't work there, so I don't know.

Yes, DEN is the 2nd largest art exibit in Colorado, it is a beautiful facility, but it isn't really kept up well, IMO. If you look at the "white" tiles on the Concourse B Ops tower, you can see that many of the tiles are now a brown/black mouldy color.

Jet-Lagged, the southern end of the Terminal is like a FOREST! Go down there, there are many trees, with nice benches in between them.

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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 12:32 pm

Uadc8,
Yes they do and its not on the concourse but rather in the sky bridge connecting A to the main terminal. Like you said it was part of the contract when DIA was built and it will never stop or the City could be sued. It is very nice to walk across the bridge and hear that music, it is very southing
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RE: DIA: Heaven On Earth

Mon May 24, 2004 1:37 pm

My father, a long time business travaler told me about the "urban legends" of DIA. The land was somehow cursed by indians, resulting in the famous failure of the electronic baggage sorting system. The Security Train system was built because down the road, DIA officials want to install a security screening system like in the movie "Total Recall". Its all laughable to me.

I'm a big proponent of downtown airports (SAN is the coolest!), but I think DIA was a excellent Stapelton replacement.