alexinwa
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What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 1:54 am

Regionals (CRJ/ERJ) point to point or hub and spoke

737/320 point to point or hub and spoke

767/777/330/340/MD11/747 Long haul (Transcon or International)

Let's say your average load factor is 80%?
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ArgInMIA
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 2:04 am

regional turboprop hub and spoke should be the easiest... actually just start a subway store !  Smile
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 2:13 am

I'd highly recommend the far more cost-effective turboprops for point-to-point flights, particularly the ATR-42, than costly jet aircraft, unless the routes served are beyond the range of such aircraft. They're comfortable and, again, cheaper to operate.
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alexinwa
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 2:18 am

How about 1 class wide-body transcon or Hawaii service??

Say a 764.......6 abreast, wider seats, 35 inches of pitch?? Max pax 200-230

Or a 772.......8 abreast, wider seats, 35 inches of pitch?? Max pax 300-330
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ArgInMIA
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 2:43 am

I'ts allways easyer to start small and then grow...starting with a 777-200 is kinda impossible unless you have tons of money.. literally tons.. I did a business plan for a small regional airline in argentina And I neeede 250.000 USD just to do the first month of flying.. and this is with very low wages .. imagine with us wages and with an airplan 100 times larger.. (J31 versus 777!)
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7e72004
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 2:49 am

i say go for the DC-9s on the point to point...Northwest would do well in that area  Big thumbs up
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alexinwa
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 3:39 am

Let's say I had 100 million to start with.

Could a 1 class, transcon, widebody service work? Not business class, but somewhere between business and coach?

LAX-JFK, SFO-BOS, MIA-LAX, ORD-HNL ETC........
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hz747300
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 3:52 am

We did a study in a management class at ASU my senior year in 1997. We took a look at UA airlines and determined that it was a strong airline, and could maintain its position because of high barriers to entry on its key long haul routes.

The professor disagreed and said he knew for a fact he could lease a second-hand 747 for $300,000 year with a crew. And he said for $1M, he could have an operation up and running within a few months.

I did not believe him. I still don't. As I think that you could even lease a 737 for $300k/year with a crew, right? An internet search on Google taught me as much.

If you had $100M and knew you could get 80% load factors, which are both really hard to obtain (see JetGreen), then I would say your best bet would be a regional airline offering unique, but popular routes. I would go with a fleet of 737's, offering service from Austin, TX and Pittsburgh, PA. No flight would be longer than 3hrs, and each aircraft would perform at least three R/T's per day. For cabin staff, I would use child labor. Cute kids pushing lemonade would attract more customers!
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ArgInMIA
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RE: What Would Be An Easier Start-up?

Tue May 25, 2004 4:17 am

Try doing MIA-MCO for cheap.. for some reason that route is allways super expensive.. A quick search on travelocity shows UNITED doing it for 179 dollars round trip..
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