panam330
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EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 8:58 am

My friend and I are going to SFO this coming July. We're flying out of SYR, and have a choice of going through either CLE or EWR. Newark is at the top, because I always go through CLE, and EWR is further away from SFO, which means a longer flight  Big grin. Also, the connections in CLE suck- they're only 30-something minutes. In EWR, I'll get at least an hour and a half, which is good. But, the real problem is which aircraft should I take?

All flights from EWR to SFO on 13.July.2004 are all 737NGs, with all but one being a 737-700, and the others 737-800s. There is but one exception- Flight 41 is the only 757 flight that day (It's a 757-200). I've been on a B738, and that's all  Sad. So, either a B73G or B752.


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In regards to IFE (I don't care all that much, but it's a six-hour flight, so I may want something, even if it's just a crappy TV show Big grin), which has the better system? I know that CO doesn't have PTVs on the narrowbodies. I also know that the 737NGs have those drop-down screens (LCDs?) every 3 rows in economy, and I don't know if their 757s have those too. I want to try the 757 very badly, but if the 737 is more comfortable in regards to IFE and anything else, I'd like to know.

Either way, I'm sure that there's a boatload of people (or should I say planeload  Big grin) here that have flown the route on both, or at least one, of the above aircraft. All comments/advice/etc., are welcome. Thanks to all that reply  Smile!

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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 9:11 am

SFO to EWR to BXH. BXH to EWR to SFO. A 757. Daily. Continental.
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Sean-SAN-
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 9:23 am

I'll go against popular opinion and say 737. The IFE is via drop down LCD screens, the 757-200's use the old CRT's and they often look crappy. Also, the 737 seems to use a more advanced system, the 757 uses Hi-8 tapes while the 737 uses DVD's (pretty sure about that).
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 9:33 am

757's are easier to upgrade on, larger first class section, but if you are not CO Elite and will be staying in Coach I second Sean-SAN's opinion and would suggest the 737NG. The seats are more comfortable, the LCD screens are bigger, and the planes for the most part have nicer interiors.

Be sure to eat something on the ground at EWR during your layover, the meal on the transcons have declined to substandard levels and really isn't enough for the 5 1/2 hours you will be in the air. There's plenty of great places to eat at EWR, and your 90 minutes there will give you more than enough time to get something decent.
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 9:45 am

Actually, CO uses new LCD drop down screens on the 757 unlike AA, DL,or UA. If your flying first class, CO usually uses atleast one 757 in international BizFirst seats, so if your flying first, go w/ the 757. In coach, you can't go wrong, there pretty much the same interior wise.

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bjg231
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 9:52 am

My vote's for the 737NG. The aircraft has comfy coach seats and the drop down lcd's aren't so bad (just a step down from a PTV).

I haven't flown a CO 757 in years, so I just remember the CRT's.

Like many airlines, look for an open bulkhead seat, as its essentially like economy plus at no charge.
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 9:57 am

What is CO's BusinessFirst layout in the 752?
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COEWRNJ
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 10:07 am

I personally would go with the 757. The 757 is one of my favorite aircraft and as COEWR2587 said the IFE is the same as the 737's with the drop down LCD screens.
RJpieces,
There are 16 BusinessFirst seats on CO's Int'l configured 757's in a 2X2 layout.

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artsyman
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 11:05 am

From where I sit, I would normally recommend the 757 flight, but after checking the loads of all the flights for that day, I would opt for one of the 738 flights. Flight 448, and 548 looking the best at the moment. I really like the 738 as an aircraft, everytime I come off one, I think to myself that I really like that plane

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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 11:43 am

The Bizfirst layout has less seats in first which is normally used for international and some transcon flights. They have the old first class seats used on widebody aircrafts. They have more legroom, more recline, and PTV's than normal domestic 757 first seats.
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 12:26 pm

I lean toward the 757. I like the 737NGs a lot, but a 757 is getting harder and harder to come by. And they're so athletic. Also, I, too, understand that Conti has upgraded to drop down lcds on the 752 fleet, though I haven't flown one.

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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 12:30 pm

I went to SFO last year. It was 757. I came back to EWR as 73G.
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 12:41 pm

Ok im a Continental Crew member so let me straiten some things out. First of all The 737NG's do not used DVD's. They also use tapes. The monitors on the 757-200 are drop down CRT'S except in BizFirst where you get your own personal LCD monitor. The new 757-300's have the same system and drop down LCD monitors like the 737NG's.
If your going for IFE go with the 737's if your going for the plane defiantly the 757.
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 10:20 pm

Agree with CAL, I flew on a CO 752 (delivered in 1994) last November and they had CRTs in coach. I would go with a 752 just based on preference, cool planes, plus you are more likely to fly in a 737 in the future than a 757.

P.S. Flying on a CO 753 next week for the first time - can't wait!

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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 10:49 pm

Just restating facts, ships 101-141 (all 757-224) have the bulky drop-down CRT screens, which are slightly smaller than the LCD system on the 737NGs and 757-300s. They go inop far more often, but we went for the CRT on our later 752 deliveries for commonality even though LCD was an available option.

The internal designation is 75B for the BusinessFirst-configured ships, but I think you can still delineate them by their "752" code on electronic timetables and such as opposed to "757" for normal Domestic 757 and "753" for the -324 series.

Looking at the schedule, we have no 753 or widebody service in that market on that day, so Coach pitch will be the standard 31" (753 has 32" IIRC), and I personally would go for the 737, at least from a passenger's perspective. The 757 is a thriller on takeoff, but inflight I think the 737NG offers a nicer, more comfortable product and is probably best overall.
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Tue May 25, 2004 11:50 pm

I stand corrected on the LCD/CRT issue, thanks for the info!

I would still lean toward the 757, simply because it seems I can never find one to fly on. It's always MD-80s or 737s. I like both- but a 757 would be a nice change. AND, why not do what that one guy did- take the 757 out and the 737 back?

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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Wed May 26, 2004 12:47 am

The 757, although older is a very comfortable and enjoyable ride, especially the fantastic steep climbouts. I think no 737 or A.320/321 can compete in terms of solidity and sturdiness in the cruise, which makes a difference on a longish trip like EWR-SFO.
Flew EWR-SFO last year and was surprised that it took 7 hours (we had a headwind): that was longer than the previous leg of my trip which was transatlantic (DUB-EWR).
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Wed May 26, 2004 12:54 am

When is your return flight?

Anyway, why not do both? Take the 737 out and the 757 on the return (or vice versa)?
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Wed May 26, 2004 5:33 am

Artsyman-

How do you check loads? What website do you use?

All others- Thanks for all the replies  Smile! I think I'm going to go with the 757, but only if I can get a window seat, of course. Artsyman states that the only 757 flight that day has a high load, so thats a bummer  Sad. But on the other hand, my dates are flexible  Big grin. I do agree though, the B738 is quite a comfortable aircraft- have taken it every single time (ironic how that works, isn't it) to Florida to see my Dad, and I fly at least 6 times a year to see him. It's just that I always have the same itinerary (ERJ145 to CLE, 738 to MCO, vv.), and I'd like to try out the 757 before it goes out of production (just for the hell of it, to say they were still making the fine machines  Big thumbs up).
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:46 am

Have to put my vote in for The 737NG. Rode both on a trip to PBI 2 weeks ago and have to say the NG (900) was a better ride (IFE,general comfort).
 
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:50 am

737 NG all the way in my opinion. See if you can take a 757 out and the other back or vice a versa.
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Wed May 26, 2004 7:29 am

They are both great aircraft, but I do have to chime in on one thing:

All of the 737NGs have the "new" Continental seat- that is, the adjustable leather headrest. I think that the older seat is MUCH more comfortable, and from my experiences, many of the 757-200s still have the older seats (they have a floppy pillowish type thing).

In terms of seat comfort, go for the 757 and if you end up with a plane that has new seats, then at least your in for an awesome take off  Big grin

But like many others have said, try to snag that 757 out and a 738 on the way back... or, if you want to be creative, fly SYR-EWR-LAX and drive the Pacific Coast Highway and fly home from SFO. Then you can get a 767-200 to LAX from EWR  Big grin

In my opinion, I'd stay away from the 73G... Not a huge fan of those -700s.. Dont really know why.

Just my $0.02
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RE: EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?

Thu May 27, 2004 9:50 am

JBLUA320-

757-200s are slowly being refitted with the "new" coach seats, with contoured tray table, articulating seat cushion, and adjustable headrests.

The older seats were good because they were so slim that they gave you a bit of extra legroom, but the new seats are cushier and the headrests are more comfortable when sleeping. The only downside is, of course, you lose just a little legroom since the seat itself is thicker.