cun757
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How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:25 am

Does any one knows how to buy and old plane like 727, 37 or any, that are scrap on the deserts, like in Mojave or the desert in New Mexico and Arizona.
The idea its to use one for a restaurant....
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:29 am

Nearly all the old planes there are on "floorplans" from some financing or leasing entity or other. You can find out from airport management who are the banking parties and contact them on what they may have to sell or liquidate.

Evergreen is another source for old aircraft. They have tons of them at Marana by Tucson.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:30 am

Are you looking for an airworthy frame or simply a hulk?
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:36 am

Well we want something complete from the outside, inside we are going to change all for tables and seats, and the outside have to be perfect, well of course we have to paint and fix parts...
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:37 am

Let me rephrase. Is the plane going to fly?
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:39 am

Of course no.... We just need the body...
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:43 am

If you are just looking for a hulk, your best bet is to contact one of the many scrap dealers that are located around each of the "graveyards". The operators usually sell the frames sans operational parts to the dealers who then strip out everything else usable and then convert it into scrap metal. They would much rather save themselves the scrapping costs (after salvage of parts) and make a few $ out of selling a fuselage hulk.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:44 am

Thank you 9-11... Can you imagine how to move them from Arizona to Cancun...? That's the funny job
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:52 am

B747-437B Tank you, sounds much better then buy a almost new plane...
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 4:59 am

Cun757,

I suggest that you contact Doug Scroggins. He has bought & sold several aircraft out there. (he's a great guy, also!)

You can contact him through his websites:

http://www.lostbirds.org/

http://www.convair880.com/

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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 5:10 am

Thank you Concord... Hope one day I can get my toy down here...
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 5:40 am

I will take an Eastern 727  Big thumbs up (are there EA planes left there??)
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 5:46 am

OK7E72004.... You want to open a restaurant also.... :O
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 5:48 am

nah...people in Indiana have old, rusty cars in their backyard..so why not a 727?  Big thumbs up
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 5:54 am

With shipping, you could have several options. The 727 and other narrowbodies should be narrow enough to ship by rail, sans tail and wings, which would have to be shipped seperately, though they could still go by rail. BNSF from Mohave to Dallas, then KCSouthern to Mexico. From there, you're on your own. Also, length might be an issue, especially on routes that twist through the mountains. The bird might have to be chopped in half before being loaded onto the railroad car.

For the larger birds, I can't imagine any other way than flying them out of there. The only other way I can think of would be by rail to the port of Los Angeles (if that's even possible), then by ship.

No matter what, it's going to cost.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:00 am

Just imagine...having an old Eastern 727 being dropped off in the backyard!  Big thumbs up
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:02 am

Yeap... I think IM going to made one on wood.... Maybe its going to be cheaper:D
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:05 am

Cun757,

Do you already have a name for your restaurant?
Like: Casa delAvioni  Smokin cool

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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:17 am

Cun757,
Dep. On the budget... You could call Boeing or Airbus and have a 7E7 or a A380 as a restaurant. You would have to wait a bit but it would make a hell of a restaurant!
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:24 am

Will be nice but the larger types(747/L1011/DC-10) would have to be totally dismantled and rebuilt. Their bodies are to tall to fit under alot of overpasses,wires etc. Call and keep us informed.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:33 am

You could always get a aircraft that is capable of being ferried but not economical for operations.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 6:48 am

Im am intrigued by this. How much does say a 757 post sans parts cost in the mojave???

But then honestly how do you get it OUT of there.

Sounds like a big undertaking
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 7:25 am

Here's another option: http://www.airplanehome.com/. You should also do a search on eBay. A quick check there turned up the cockpit of a 727 simulator. I'm sure a whole fuselage will be available from time to time.
 
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 7:50 am

Cun757,

Why bothering going all the way to Mojave?

At CUN there's an old 727 ex. Allegro. You just go to the terminal, ask for the administrator or someone that could help you buying that 727.

At CVJ there are 7 ex. Aerolineas Internacionales 727s. I've heard a week ago that they'll come back with 2 and probably they'll add 2 more. But I know that at least 2 won't get back to the air. You could also go and search for those 727s.

At TLC airport you have 2 ex. 727s from Taesa.

At MEx you have 2 ex. 727s from Taesa. (In fact there were 4, one has been cutted in piece going somewhere and one its a 727-100 that will carry Mexicana's colors at Museo Explora in León city)

And at MTY there are several ex. 727s from Aviacsa/AeroExo.

In Costa Rica I think there are several 732s ex. TACA.... closer to CUN also.

If you still want to go up north, please bring a 747! I would love to go to your restaurant! It's a very nice idea.

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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 8:17 am

Finally some real talk about getting a real meal on an airliner  Laugh out loud

Seriously, good luck with this adventure, I hope it becomes reality.

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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 9:12 am

I have thought about inquiring as well. Although, I am more interested in the aircraft as housing. Not so sure if the wife concurs though  Smile

Seriosly though, should anybody have any concrete information, please pass it along.
 
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 10:07 am

Thank you all... You know what Ghost... I try in here with this 727, but some people say its from Aviacsa, and some other from Allegro... And when you are interested in that start only in $$$ but like if your buying a new one...
I know also about some DC3 in Oaxaca... But how to get them...?
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 11:42 am

Search http://www.planemart.com by type. Each airframe has hours and cycles, as well as contact information for the parties selling the planes.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 12:50 pm

@CUN757: moving is no problem, contact one of the larger international logistic companies (i.e. Kuehne + Nagel), they are able to arrange the transport from the place to want to the place you need it. Suppose a large multi-axle trailer would do a fine job.

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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Wed May 26, 2004 12:52 pm

I truly hate to put a damper on the idea, but I must.

My now deceased dad had the same idea 18 years ago. He had the advantage of living in Tucson, where aircraft are cheap, and he had a bit of spare cash floating around, lots of spare cash and I do mean lots of spare cash. But in the end, it proved impossible and he had to resort to the old fashioned brick and mortar building. And that still cost him $700,000 dollars. A true pity.
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Thu May 27, 2004 5:38 am

Cun757,

Yeap, I was checking who that 727-200 was and it is from Aviacsa. XA-RXI std and used for spares since 1995.

Well if it is impossible because they sell it like a new frame, then go all the way to Mojave.

Bringing it I think it's not a big deal. Just like Flying-Tiger mentions... contact Kuenhne Nagel of Mexico. They have Mexico's headquarters really close to MEx airport. Also my parents Travel Agency sell tickets to the company. I'll see I can get you the address and telephones so you can call them and see how much they would charge to you. They move almost all the cargo with Atlas Air Cargo.

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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Thu May 27, 2004 8:08 pm

Hmmm. Ive always wondered how much it would be to get just the flight deck from one of those birds. Maybe turn it into a home offce desk. Or better yet, the ultimate home FS. Guess I'll keep on dreaming.
 
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Thu May 27, 2004 11:39 pm

If you have a look here http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?main=Boeing they have a 767-200 cockpit from one of the ex-TWA birds for sale. Would that fit in your garage?
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Fri May 28, 2004 12:34 am

There is a 747 at TIJ..mabe easier because it is Mexico they may give it to you free to get rid of it..or open one in TIJ >>>
 
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RE: How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?

Fri May 28, 2004 5:36 am

Thanks Cospn... I knew about this one but its to big... Can you imagine how many tables I need to full that...? Big grin
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