futureuapilot
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How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:11 am

Hey guy's,

Well, as my username suggests, my only dream is to be a pilot, but I don't really know how to. I know you have to get a private license, but beyond that I'm clueless!!!  Confused any ideas? Thanks so much!!!

Sam
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British767
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RE: How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:13 am

If only I knew my life would be complete. It is extremely competitve to get into. Some airlines offer sponsorships. But if you have got $100,000 yourself, you can get training (but there's no guarentee of a job), other than that, I dunno.
 
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RE: How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:19 am

you can also try the ANG. They have a program for aspiring pilots.
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DeltaGuy
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RE: How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:21 am

Best suggestion, go to the military, the Air Force Guard is especially good as you can have that as well as an airline job! The airlines love the advanced time, and it doesn't cost you anything, they pay you to do this for a living...it's my plan at least Big grin

If not, and you don't have 100K, go to ATP Academy...they'll give you alot of Multi time, and a good instructor job afterwards...

There's a ton of other suggestions out there, and tons of roads to go down. See ya on one of em  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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SUPRAZACHAIR
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RE: How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:22 am

Here's the sugarcoated version (civilian route):

Get a $40-50grand loan, it should pretty much cover training. If you can get an associates through you're training, even better.
1. Get PPL.
(The following is the order I'm doing, though some will do the multi later on...)
2. PPL Multi
3 Instrument multi
4. Commercial Multi, single add on
5. CFI
6. CFII
7. MEI
8. Find a good FBO and commit to 2-3 solid years of top ramen, mac and cheese, and flying your ass off as an instructor.
9. While you're instructing, take some classes and finish off your 4 year degree somewhere (doesn't matter where)...
10. APPLY APPLY APPLY APPLY APPLY
11. Pray

The biggest thing you've got to do, and you'll hear it from everyone, is NETWORK. Get to know people who might be able to give you an inside track later on. Scratch their back and one day they'll scratch yours.


edit- Another suggestion is to NOT get your training in Europe... lol They pay an arm and a leg over there. Only way you'll pay 100grand over here is if you get reamed at one of the academies (Pan Am, Delta Conn., etc). If you're like me and don't have the eye sight to go the military route, FBO training is the more affordable way to go.

[Edited 2004-05-28 02:26:36]
 
futureuapilot
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RE: How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:28 am

Well, sounds good. Thanks a lot!!!
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RE: How To Become A Pilot

Fri May 28, 2004 9:33 am

Unless you want to earn less than you could gutting fish, and have to look for a new job in a different town every two to five years, the first order of business is a college degree. Any airline job or military flying will require it.

Along the way you can start working on:
  • Private License

  • Instrument Rating

  • Commercial License

  • Multiengine Rating


  • Unless you want to go the military route. If you go military, expect to give it ten years and expect to see combat in a place that does not want you there. The up side here is that they will train you from raw-meat student up to their standards, which are pretty high.

    If you do not want to go the military route I don't know how to tell you to get the couple thousand hours you are going to need to be competetive for jobs as good as flying twin Cessnas.

    The big thing is, though, you don't find flying jobs hanging around the shoe store. Go to an airport. Not a big airport with airline service, but a little one where student pilots are trained. Hang around some. Ask some questions. Meet some pilots in the lower-end jobs.

    Anyone who has stuck with it long enough to be flying charter or something like that can teach you more than a forum like this.

    But first go to college.
    If your college grades permit, you could take flying lessons concurrently but the degree is more important than the license for now.





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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 9:38 am

    SlamClick,

    Couldnt agree with you more. Licenses are nice, but they won't put food on the table if you loose your medical. A degree will do that to a much better extent.

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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 9:44 am

    But first go to college.
    If your college grades permit, you could take flying lessons concurrently but the degree is more important than the license for now.


    That's exactly right SlamClick...that's what keeps me from working on it during the school year, tryin to do at least one thing right  Smile You can't settle for anything less than a 4 yr degree.

    The ANG is still a good deal if you want to have a life too...otherwise, if you go full active duty Navy or Air Force, you'll spend 10 years, with at least 6-8 of it on active duty...which limits your airline shots till you're off of active.

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    futureuapilot
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:04 am

    Thanks for the advice, but what degree should I get in college? Maybe an aeronautical degree? Thanks again,

    Sam
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    DeltaGuy
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:08 am

    A very wise Captain once told me that I could get a degree in basketweaving, it doesn't matter entirely too much...and you DONT necessariy need one in Aeronautics or Engineering or anything...do what you like, that's the best advice.

    You'd want to have a good backing in something though, if your airline pilot job suddenly dries up (furlough, medical leave, other acts of God)..i.e. a business degree, etc etc. While my dad was on furlough from Delta, he used his Aero Engineering degree to go work for NASA, he had good backing to be employed elsewhere. Always good to have a safety net  Smile

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    futureuapilot
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:14 am

    Cool, it's nice to know you don't have to have a degree in aeronautics.

    -Sam
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:27 am

    SupraZachAir,
    I forgot to ask before, what is the CFl, CFll, and MEI? I'm familiar with PPL, but the others got me stumped!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I don't have to worry about your step 11, PRAY, i have that done many times, and I'm not even taking lessons yet!!! Thanks for all the info,
    -Sam
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:32 am

    Waht exactly does a medical entail and waht are the requirements? Be it for entry into the military or a class1 for civil.
     
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:32 am

    CFI- Certified Flight Instructor
    CFII- Certified Flight Instructor Instrument (can also teach instrument rating)
    MEI- Multi-engine instructor

    I also wanna say, never give up, it will take a lot of work and even more determination!
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    futureuapilot
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:38 am

    futureUALpilot,
    First, thanks for the clarification, and second, nice username!!! So you were the one who had the name I wanted!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I got to go!!!

    -Sam
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    RE: How To Become A Pilot

    Fri May 28, 2004 10:45 am

    FutureUApilot-

    Yes, it was me! muah-ha-ha-ha (evil laugh).

    Anyway, take care and best of luck. See you in the skies.

    (Maybe a UA flight deck eh?)
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