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First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 3:28 pm

Looking at the new a380 picture, I have a few questions:

- Is this thing going to be pressurized during static tests?
- Why is there an empty space on the leading edge of the wings near the fuselage? What is there in the real aircraft?
- What are the red things hanging from the inner engine mounts?
- Why isn't there an horizontal stabilizer? Isn't it worth testing too?

Besides, what interesting things have you noticed about this picture?

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wilco
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 3:39 pm

this A380 is NOT finished. it simply a pic of it with the wings on. don't worry, all the "holes" will be filled and they'll find a horizontal stabilizer somewhere...

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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 3:44 pm

SQ, QF, EK, LH and the others would be a bit disappointed about a delivery in that condition..  Smile
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 5:52 pm

A380900: as much as I have heared this plane will never fly. They produced it to check out statics and the needs for airports.
 
mischadee
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 6:14 pm

Seems like it is missing some landinggears.

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RaginMav
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 9:38 pm

I heard they didn't attach the horizontal stabilizer because they're considering a design change...


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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 9:44 pm

The red thingies underneath the #2 & 3 engine mounts should be weighs that help the a/c be balanced and that prevent it from tilting backward, since the fuselage and landing gear are balanced and positionned for when the engines are mounted, ... and they ain't.

The a/c is also missing his set of inner gears. Those will have 6 wheels bogeys, like the 777's main gear.

The empty space near the wing root will not be part of the main load bearing structure, it will only be sheet metal and/or composite fairings and compartments. I am unsure wether they will be mounted on this airframe for testing, or wether they will be tested separately.

I believe pressurization test will be conducted with that airframe.
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 9:59 pm

If you guys look really hard, where the HS should be, you will see the Horizontal Stabilizer. Look REALLY HARD
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 10:53 pm

I bet if kids had had the internet at the time of the 747's launch they would have thought - I bet that won't fly. Like I do seeing trhe first pics of the A-380. This is a brave move, and Europe is just about to take over the US as the world's largest aircraft manufacturer in all senses of the word. The 7e7 is going to look tiny compared to this (if it ever along-side). Infact, everything is.

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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Fri May 28, 2004 11:26 pm

Some answers to the questions A380900 asked:

- Is this thing going to be pressurized during static tests?

Yes, they do need to evaluate the ability to pressure-cook rice during flight, as demanded by the Asian carriers who have placed orders for the A380.

- Why is there an empty space on the leading edge of the wings near the fuselage? What is there in the real aircraft?

The empty space is where the deeply discounted seats will be placed. Basically, it will be a dark chamber with no windows and no inflight service. This will be intended for those folks who want to fly long-haul but only want to pay 10% of the regular ticket price. Remember, airlines will want to maximize the number of fare paying pax to justify the economics of this monster.

- What are the red things hanging from the inner engine mounts?

That's a special feature requested by Virgin (hence the red color). Even though Sir Richard Branson will not admit this, my sources tell me that Virgin plans to install an on-board laundry on this airplane for First Class. The red "things" will house the washer and dryer units (the remote location will facilitate easy disposal of laundry water as well as quick "freeze-drying" of clothes in the air. How they will get clothes from the fuselage to the laundry units is an interesting story of European engineering genius. (one that cannot be briefly covered here.)

- Why isn't there an horizontal stabilizer? Isn't it worth testing too?

This is a dirty little secret of the aviation industry that will finally come out with the A380. Basically, airplane manufacturers have long known that horizontal stabilizers don't really contribute anything to the operation of modern fly-by-wire aircraft. However, they have kept these on their airplanes to placate the general public who may irrationally be afraid of flying on an odd-looking airplane without horizontal stabilizers. However, due the considerable weight considerations involved in an a/c the size of the A380, Airbus decided to do away with this piece of useless junk hanging off the rear of the a/c.

Besides, what interesting things have you noticed about this picture?

It seems to me that the airplane is sporting a mischievous grin as if to taunt Boeing.
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sat May 29, 2004 12:13 am

LOL, that last post was the best I've read so far today  Smile RR
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sat May 29, 2004 1:21 am

Funny and yet axe-grindey all at once  Laugh out loud

(especially the "as if to taunt Boeing" bit of apparent paranoia  Smile )
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sat May 29, 2004 5:06 am

The A380 will look very large, however, It will by no means dwarf a 744 when side by side... But you will be able to tell its bigger... I would anticipate it will be like seeing a 777 next to a 747.
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sat May 29, 2004 8:25 pm

Airbus has been very reluctant to let these pictures go - and judging by some of the comments they've attracted, I'm not surprised.
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sat May 29, 2004 10:07 pm

One thing Ive noticed, from first glance..........

It looks really ugly!!!!, but then again, its not finished yet, lets wait and see
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sat May 29, 2004 11:15 pm

One of my great concerns about the A380 is, if the airports where are supposed to flight, are going to be prepared by such time to receive it?

 
Spike
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 12:38 am

I think the 747 is going to look pretty small beside it. But this is by a long way from being the final version. Imagine sitting in that cockpit and landing the thing though! Phew.
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 12:45 am

Maybe it'll be like the spruce goose. lol. a one hit wonder
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 12:50 am

Why is there an empty space on the leading edge of the wings near the fuselage? What is there in the real aircraft?

The empty space is where the deeply discounted seats will be placed. Basically, it will be a dark chamber with no windows and no inflight service.


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Spike
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 12:53 am

I don't think that picture should have been released. Is it an official Airbus shot, and did it make the press elsewhere (it didn't in HK btw)?

Can't wait to see the cinema and shopping mall!
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 1:07 am

Are you kidding?

Geeze, is the original post kidding??
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 1:14 am

Can't wait to see the cinema and shopping mall!

A few weeks ago I was spotting with a friend and traffic was low...well, to make a long story short, we started to make jokes and say crap.. And then I had this US$1.000.000 idea.

We could buy an A380 and make a "party in the sky" service. The upper deck could be used for the formal part of weddings, graduations, conferences, etc while the lower deck would be a wide open place, with a huge dancing floor, food court, maybe we could even have some private rooms for Mile High Club experiences. The possibilities are just infinite...

Fortunately, the traffic increased and we returned to the spotting...

And no... I have not smoked anything.. Smokin cool

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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 2:18 am

Re-the parties in the sky, I don't think that is a very far fetched idea. I beleive I read somewhere that Corsair used to do such flights where several seats were removed in the centre section and in cruise the "guests" would just assemble there and party around table fulls of food and music.

I seriously think such an idea has already been thought of and is being considered by some. I have been on the mock up and half the upper deck was devoid of seats. It looked like a small general aviation hangar.

The rest of the mock up was made up of concepts and ideas which I hardly think will ever materialise. Although some are cool, like the library, the shopping mall and the rear standing bar with mood lighting and overhead plasma screens.
 
LacsaA320
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 2:33 am

"I don't think that picture should have been released. Is it an official Airbus shot, and did it make the press elsewhere (it didn't in HK btw)? "

I simply don't get it. Why it shouldn't have been released??????

Is a "Secret of State" ?

By the way, some picture of the A380 in an other forum, apparently was taken close to a public road!
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 2:35 am

I have to admit I am a die hard Boeing fan. But no matter what anyone thinks of Airbus one must admit this is pretty damn impressive! I don't think it looks ugly, on the contrary it looks amazing.

Hats off to Airbus on making this a reality.
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 2:42 am

Parties in the Sky.

Well along the ame line there was that fellow that was running a charter service with a twin commander.

He replaced most of the seats with a bed, and piped musice back there. He would then take couples up who wanted to join the mile high club.
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 2:56 am

Wow, the A380 program is moving along faster then i had expected.

Keep it up! lol.
 
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RE: First A380 Pic - Questions

Sun May 30, 2004 2:56 am

Anybody can see such picture at:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1585445/

This is in regard of my previous post.

It appears on reply 180.