antiuser
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CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 5:38 am

What are most airlines' policies regarding portable CD players (discman) during flight? I am aware that due to radio interference, they are not allowed to be used during takeoff and landing, but I should be allowed to use it while the seat belt sign is off, right?

To make my question more specific, will I be allowed to use my portable CD player on an AA flight on Y? My seat even has a power port, which I have an adapter for, so I don't have to worry about my batteries dying during the flight...

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ATL2CDG
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 5:45 am

http://www.aa.com/content/travelInformation/duringFlight/onboardTechnology.jhtml?anchorEvent=false

You can scroll to the bottom of the page to read about AA's official policy on the use of electronic devices (including CD players) in flight. Also, near the top of the page is information regarding the use of power ports.
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COEWRNJ
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 5:45 am

You will be able to use your cD player on all the U.S. majors. So the answer to your question is yes you will be allowed to use the CD player. The only time I have been told to turn my CD player off was on LH from EWR-AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA. Hope you have a good flight.

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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 5:48 am

It's not so much the radio interference that's the problem as wearing the headset and not being able to hear crew instruction in an emergency. During flight you should be fine once the seatbelt signs are off. If in doubt ask a crew member or listen to the boarding announcement. Hope this helps a bit.
 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 5:54 am

Little off topic, but I want to tell you that two weeks ago, I bought a Garmin GPS, which is allowed to use it during a flight, and it was amazing, I saw the speed, the altitude, routes, direction, etc. A good "toy". Everybody looked at me with curiosity but even in the inflight magazine (In this case AV - Avianca) they say it is allowed all the time.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 5:56 am

Well, the built in 'On Board Entertainment System' for many of the Embraer RJ's is a Sony Discman. It's built into the Galley in a compartment.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 7:06 am

Little off topic, but I want to tell you that two weeks ago, I bought a Garmin GPS, which is allowed to use it during a flight, and it was amazing, I saw the speed, the altitude, routes, direction, etc. A good "toy". Everybody looked at me with curiosity but even in the inflight magazine (In this case AV - Avianca) they say it is allowed all the time.

When I flew SY MSP-LAS in March, they said GPS use is strictly prohibited at anytime during the flight. Sad
 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 7:35 am

Most US majors will have an announcement when passing 10,000ft telling you that portable electronic devices (including CD players) are allowed to be used.
 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 7:36 am

there shouldn't be a problem with using it during flight, it's only during takeoff and landing. You should wait till your plane reaches cruising altitude before you turn it on on takeoff due to static interference with radio and control equipment. The last thing a pilot wants is for static noises to be ringing in his ear while trying to talk and listen with the tower.
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FLYtoEGCC
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 7:45 am

Depends on the airline. There are certain ones, such as MyTravel, whose policy is that "portable electronic devices including CD players and laptop computers must not be used at any time as they can interfere with the aircraft's navigation systems" (well, that was the policy when they were Airtours anyway, I'm not sure if it's the same now.) Which, I assume, is a load of b******s because other airlines operating the same type of aircraft (A32x, A330, 757) have absolutely no problem with it. It's obviously a marketing ploy... if you can't listen to your CD player, you have to buy a set of their headphones so you can watch their IFE instead.

On my Airtours flights in 2001 (pre-MyTravel), I asked a F/A whether I could listen to my CD player, as I was unsure of the company's policy... and he said quietly "yeah, go on it'll be fine". Which proves my point.

Another thing that annoyed me was the fact that the sockets on their aircraft have a double 3.5mm stereo socket, rather than the standard single one, and, according to them, you have to buy their headphones to be able to use it. Rubbish. All you have to do is plug your CD phones into one of the sockets and leave the other one empty, and it works normally. I know this won't apply to AA, but beware of this particularly on charter airlines, who try and sell you one thing after another for most of the flight.

On most airlines I fly with, you can use them as soon as the seat-belt sign has gone off, this appears to be the general rule over here. I don't know about the US, but like people have said above, if you're in doubt, just ask.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 7:53 am

There are certain ones, such as MyTravel, whose policy is that "portable electronic devices including CD players and laptop computers must not be used at any time

Yes, when I flew with them a couple of years ago that policy was still going! It's ridiculous the way it varies from airline to airline! I don't know whether to talk the cassette player, the minidisc player, the cd player.....it should be either OK or not for all airlines!
 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 8:01 am

I just listened to mine anyway. When the F/As come past, you just pull your earphones out for a second and hide them. I'd travelled to Toronto a month earlier on an A330 with Canada 3000 and they didn't have a problem with it, so no way were they telling me that their A330 would have been affected. I've got a tiny little Panasonic MP3 player now, measures 3cm x 3cm, even better! A mobile phone is a different matter, especially if you're sat next to any wiring, or near the E&E bay near the front - that could cause problems. The emissions from any kind of electronic music player are negligible in comparison.

Basically, it's OK to do so. MyTravel were bullshitting so they could sell extra headphones. 360 passengers on an A330-200 multiplied by (I think) £2.50 a set... £900. Not a bad little earner, eh? (OK, I know not everyone's going to buy them anyway, but you get my point.)
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 8:09 am

Exactly, and they are the cheapest piles of sh!t ever made, it probably costs them 50p each to get them and they sell them for 5 times as much!  Big grin
 
antiuser
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 9:08 am

Thank you very much for your replies. I was almost certain I would be able to use it but just wanted to make sure, since I'm in Brazil and have learned that AA's customer service is utter pants, I wanted to check before I burned my special flight compilation  Smile
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 9:12 am

GPS usage also varies from airline to airline...some allow it, but most do not...

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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 10:07 am

I flew AA last weekend and here is their rule on CD player on board. You can use CD-players anytime after you set put on the plane except for when they are giving safety procedures, takeoff and landing (You should be able to use them 5-10 after take off) You are allowed to use them thorughtout the flight, its just those few minutes they dont want any electronics (laser) interfeering with the aircrft.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 11:21 am

Muchas gracias, Venezuela747, ahora ya sé que no hay ningún problema y puedo empiezar a grabar mi compilación especial para el vuelo  Smile

Translated: Thank you very much, Venezuela 747, now I already know there is o problem and I can begin to record my special compilation for the flight

I'm glad I finally joined this place after lurking for so long. You guys have been a great source of help. Cheers all.
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Sammyhostie
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 4:36 pm

"There are certain ones, such as MyTravel, whose policy is that "portable electronic devices including CD players and laptop computers must not be used at any time"

Actually, we dont let you use them on take off landing obviously, but the policy has changed recently, so you can use:-
CD players
P3 players (Inc I Pods)
Laptops
DVD players etc

Inflight.

 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 8:49 pm

UA and NW policy is you can use DC players in flight except during the first and last 10 minuites and when the door is closed on the ground. EI, on the other hand, has a policy of having CD players off during the entire flight, which is kind of silly because you can use a tape player or anything that does not use a laser or send/receive signals. On the EI flight I took ORD-DUB, the flight attendants even asked a member of my group to turn their CD player off mid flight, so either that crew member was a stickler or EI really enforces this policy.

AA probably has the same policy as UA and NW, and if they do they will announce when you can use them and when you must turn them off.

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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 9:37 pm

I thought when you plugged regular headphones into the 2-pronggers you only got mono sound out of one headphone.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 10:30 pm

i have an iPod, so that is no problem at all, but on EI from ORD-DUB the FA's said the use of cd players was prohibited at all times. meh. buy an mp3 player.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 10:34 pm

Going back to the point about My Travel, they are the only airline I have flown on that don't allow CD players during the flight!!! Mind you they are one of the only airlines I fly on apart from Monarch and BMI sometimes.

Even so it's a pathetic excuse to get more cash.

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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 10:41 pm

"I thought when you plugged regular headphones into the 2-pronggers you only got mono sound out of one headphone"

That's what I thought, too, but I decided to try it anyway because I wasn't paying for the ones Airtours supplied... and it worked fine. So now I know not to bother.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 11:26 pm

Anyone know if FCA have a specific policy on CD players? I'm flying with them next week and would hate to upset the F/A's!
 
antiuser
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sat May 29, 2004 11:38 pm

I just called the local AA office and they said that it's alright to use my discman once the aircraft has reached cruise altitude, and that sure enough, I can plug it on the power port, provided I have the adapter (which I do).

Thanks again, this forum is great.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 12:09 am

"Going back to the point about My Travel, they are the only airline I have flown on that don't allow CD players during the flight!!! Mind you they are one of the only airlines I fly on apart from Monarch and BMI sometimes.

Even so it's a pathetic excuse to get more cash."

Read my post!

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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 12:21 am

Steve7E7 - it's the same as for all the others now, once the seat belt sign has gone off in the climb, you can use them, and when it comes back on for the descent, you have to switch them off. (If the seat belt sign comes back on due to turbulence in the cruise, then you can continue using them.) No policy specific to CD players, it applies to all portable electronic devices and laptop computers.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 12:40 am

Speaking of electronics, does anyone know US's Scanner policies. I have checked thier site and there is nothing on using them during flights. Any help is appreciated?

Thanks,
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 11:38 am

On my last flight this year, I used the headphones (with a CD player) from pushback to landing, without mention.
 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 11:47 am

Does anyone know if G4 would allow me to use my GPS in flight?
 
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 2:57 pm

I remember a few years ago, I was on a TWA flight from SNA to STL, they let me use my scanner. I just asked the F/A. guess its kind of like most things all you gotta do is ask, worst thing they can say is no.
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 10:51 pm

Extending this discussion. I always carry a set of adapters, stereo to the 2 prong to get around the plug problem. It is that classic thing- you site in J class and you get headphones before take-off and no on says anything on wearing them at any time (I agree you should have them plugged in to the system so you hear announcements) and in Y they hunt you down like dogs.

The question I throw out - A few years ago I flew on Ryan Air to Turin and I was told under the Irish Air Authority rules I could not use a lap top or other electronic device. Is this rubbish or are there various authorities and then airline rules in play?
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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Sun May 30, 2004 11:11 pm

Going back to the point about My Travel, they are the only airline I have flown on that don't allow CD players during the flight!!!

I thought Britannia were the only ones. I dont remember having MyTravel tell me I couldn't. Well that was back in 1997-8 when they were Airtours.

Good to see that they saw sense and now allow them.


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RE: CD Player While In Flight

Mon May 31, 2004 12:43 am

"The question I throw out - A few years ago I flew on Ryan Air to Turin and I was told under the Irish Air Authority rules I could not use a lap top or other electronic device. Is this rubbish or are there various authorities and then airline rules in play?"

It's rubbish. I don't know if policy has changed since then, though - but part of the standard pre-flight Ryanair announcement from the F/A is that "laptops and portable electronic devices must not be used until after takeoff and the seat-belt sign has been switched off."
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