Jkw777
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Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 4:26 pm

Hi there,

Up until Jan 2004 I didn't have my own GB Passport.

In April 2004 I was at LHR flying to LAX with my good friend Chris Sharps. We were just about to go through the gate and when they put my ticket into the machine it made a beep and they told me to wait to one side.

They took my passport and done something on their system which involved them swiping the strip full of letters and numbers that is usually found at the bottom of the photo page through a reader of some kind?!

Does anyone have any ideas why this may have been?

Many thanks for the help,

Regards,

Justin  Smile

PS: Here's a shot of me waiting looking VERY unimpressed  Big thumbs up Cheers Chris!



Kinda got my hands in my trouser pockets starting at these people pissing about with my passport! I was NOT HAPPY!  Laugh out loud
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 4:42 pm

All I can say is:

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!

Simon  Big grin
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 4:51 pm

By goodness I recognize that area! Its T3! Gate 50.3 million!

Dashing, Justin, dashing!

They always swipe my passport, AFTER the flight, not before! No clue really!

Cheers,
VS346

[Edited 2004-05-29 09:57:51]
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senliture
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 5:10 pm

There are three people in the picture, which one are you? The blonde?  Big thumbs up
 
nudelhirsch
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 5:20 pm

Are You that old man on the right side of the pic? Your profile states a different age... Laugh out loud
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Jkw777
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 5:23 pm

Ahem, NO!

I am the handsome one in the white shirt FOOL  Laugh out loud

Justin  Big grin
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 5:26 pm

Hey the lady, isn't that bad looking really!

This thread prompted me to read your trip reports. Great reads!

I'll be flying MAN-LHR may 31. BMI as well. Wish me luck!  Big thumbs up

Cheers,
VS346
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nudelhirsch
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 5:28 pm

Jkw777, well, I somehow was wrong then...lol... Big grin
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LJ
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 5:37 pm

Does anyone have any ideas why this may have been?

The reason why they do this is because all visitors to the USA must have machine readable passports. If you don't have a machine readable passport you'll be deported at the airlines expense plus the airline will get a fine (and if it happens too often they may revoke the route license). They sometimes swipe your passport at check-in and if it doesn't work (the machine can't read your passport) they usually deny you on the flight. Last year, my friend was almost denied on a AKL-LAX flight because the machine at check-in couldn't read his passport. Fortunately it worked on another machine but he was told not to put his passport in his pocket as it may get wet during the flight.

Other airlines swipe the passport at the gate and some (Air New Zealand at LHR) clearly like to swipe passports as my passport was swiped once at the transfer desk and again at the gate.




 
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 6:22 pm

Some exceptions to this rule LJ kindly pointed out:

Canada, The Bahamas, and Japan.

The U.S. allows people from these nations to enter without machine readable passports.

[Edited 2004-05-29 11:23:41]
 
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 11:47 pm

The reason why they do this is because all visitors to the USA must have machine readable passports

Absolute nonsense.

A MRP is only required to participate in the VWP program. All other visitors are absolutely permitted to travel on non-MRP passports.

The actual reason they did this was because of the APIS (Advance Passenger Information System) upload that the airline is required to make within 1 hour of the flight departure inbound to the United States. This alerts the US to the identities of passengers incoming and allows them to focus on any specific names that may raise flags. Since your passport was new, they did not have your data in the system yet (regular travelers for example have their passport details kept on file or in their frequent flyer profile) and they swiped the MRP strip through an optical reader to capture that data for upload.

Similar APIS systems are used for passengers traveling to/from the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and New Zealand - although the US system is by far the most comprehensive and arguably among the least effective.
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RE: Question About Flying On New Passports?

Sat May 29, 2004 11:57 pm

How could you possibly look unimpressed with that blonde right there? I would have let the gate agent fiddle with the passport while I tried to fiddle around with that blonde while I waited!  Big grin

And the winner for best actress is....REESE WITHERSPOON for 'Walk the Line'!!!!!!!!

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