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1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Mon May 31, 2004 6:33 pm

Hey all,
It looks I beat everyone to the 1st A318 revenue service jumpseat pic, thanks again to a wonderful AF flightcrew  Big thumbs up

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Photo © William Ronciere


That prompted an email from an AF senior Captain on photographers and a.net in general.
To make a long story short :
1) Jumpseats are still allowed on AF, but only if you're a pilot/aircrew/airline employee with credentials.
2) Pictures must be dicussed beforehand with the crew.
3) Please refrain from showing "inappropriate" situations, i.e anything that deviates from normal procedures.
4) Please refrain from writing "negative" or inaccurate comments in the comment field.
5) If possible, blank out the registration on the panel (see pic).

The Captain also advised me that an internal memo concerning a.net jumpseaters had circulated in the airline, stating that these were still legal and allowed at the Captain's discretion, but that restraint will have to be exercised in the future.
So If we still want to enjoy the ride upfront in one of the last airlines that allow it, let's follow these guidelines.

UTA

[Edited 2004-05-31 11:33:50]
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Mon May 31, 2004 8:22 pm

Maybe a silly question, but is it really the intention to blanc out the registration on the flight deck.... only to add it in the photo details? Kind a defeats the purpose I'd say?

Other than that, it's a great pic!
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.

Mon May 31, 2004 8:33 pm

Maybe a silly question, but is it really the intention to blanc out the registration on the flight deck.... only to add it in the photo details? Kind a defeats the purpose I'd say?

This way there's no photographic evidence that can or could be used.
How do you know for sure ?
 Laugh out loud

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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:28 am

Thats awesome that we can still do the jumpseat on AF. But the question begs to be asked with the Rule of Airline Crew,Employee or pilot do we circumvent that rule for being A.net photographers? Just a question



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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:43 am

Kind of curious, on larger aircraft are non-revs allowed to sit in unused jump seats? For instance if I wanted to fly AF somewhere and the only seats available was a unused jump seat would i be able to sit in it? Would i have to be part of the crew or would a CSA count? Just curious on different airlines policies.
 
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:00 pm

The rule concerning traveling on a Jumpseat on AF is simple :

Any airline staff or relative, traveling with an ID Ticket can apply for a jumpseat, if the cabin is full.

The jumpseats on a plane "belongs" to the Captain. He and only HE can decide if he wants (or not) to take somebody on a jumpseat, and who he is going to take.

This rule is the same on short, medium and long-haul.

Most Captain accept visits in the cockpit from children or private pilots, or people who have a job dealing with aviation.
 
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:18 pm

Wohoo, then i have good chances to get in with my Pilot Licence?  Smile

Nah, i have another special trick to get there  Wink/being sarcastic

BTW: The topic should get deleted for badselfplug  Laugh out loud just kidding, nice image William!

regards, Florian

EDIT: Can you tell me what ISO setting you used? Last time I was on a JS flight ( May8th, A320 ) I used ISO800 to make the LCD screens visible... but now they're not A.net quality in large size...  Sad

Thanks!

[Edited 2004-06-02 12:20:54]
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:20 pm

What a nice policy! The airline I work for will not allow anyone in the jumpseat for landing/takeoff.
 
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.

Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:28 pm

5) If possible, blank out the registration on the panel (see pic).

Now, if that is not some shameful plugging !!!  Big thumbs up

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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Wed Jun 02, 2004 10:22 pm

Florian, you should conme fly with us in Elbonia someday, as you are ysed to the mountains :

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Photo © William Ronciere
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Photo © William Ronciere


As for the camera settings, I used my trusty PowerShot G5 as my DSLR was on holidays.
Settings ? P mode and fill-in flash  Smile (no kidding !)

Cheers,
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:43 am

That A318 photo is badlevel! The easiest and best instrument is available to detect badlevel, and there are even three of them!

Great photo William Big thumbs up

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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:47 am

What a nice policy! The airline I work for will not allow anyone in the jumpseat for landing/takeoff.

Since September 11th, the CAA has banned flight deck visits in flight.
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:59 am

I was actually referring to the fact that the airline won't allow staff to remain in the flightdeck for landing or take-off unless we have a 4th crewmember aboard.

 
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RE: 1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net

Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:08 am

This way there's no photographic evidence that can or could be used.
How do you know for sure ?


If you have ATC records, you can look at the clock which is clearly visible and then also the approximate location of the aircraft according to the map.

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