boac707
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Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:14 am

The following article appeared today on YYZNews:

e)...effective tomorrow, June 1st Air Canada Cargo is getting back into the pure freighter business to a degree with a new scheduled weekday trans-continental service. The flights will depart Toronto at 0630 with a Boeing 727-200F wet-leased from All Canada Express and fly non-stop to Calgary, then on to Vancouver. The return flight will operate non-stop from Vancouver to Toronto arriving back at 1830hrs on a Tu/We/Th/Fr basis only for now.


Any chance of a nostalgic appearance of a 727 in AirCanada livery?

I also think this is the start of something bigger. There is still rumours of a similar arrangement with Atlas for inter continental flights.
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:53 am

It will be ACA's own 74F's, Atlas will be interim....
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:50 am

Slawko;

Where did you here that? I am pretty close to Cargo Ops in YUL and they are still saying Atlas for the foreseeable future.
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:53 am

Wait and see what the details of the new pilot agreement are. Milty is getting his freighters...  Smile
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:53 am

This has been talked about a lot at AC. In fact, last year AC was supposed to have Atlas 747's flying to Hong Kong from Toronto, but that never materialized. Only time will tell really, but I'd like to see the re-emergence of Air Canada Cargo once again.
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:11 am

Yes, late last summer Air Canada got very close to leasing an Atlas 747 for Hong Kong services from Toronto, however my understanding was that this deal was killed based on the rejection by the pilots union.

Maybe the plan is possible now based on agreements that have been reached between the unions and company during the bankruptcy process.
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:30 am

So, thanks to AC, it looks like ACE gets another extension on it's lease on life. Can ya sense the irony here, folks?
I wonder what were the reasons for Air Canada getting out of dedicated freight operations?

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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:16 am

I wonder what were the reasons for Air Canada getting out of dedicated freight operations?

The 6 DC-8-73F's were used almost exclusively for Purolator. When that contract ended, AC retired the DC-8's.

AC still owns 2 742Combi's which could be converted to cargo. These have been in storage for several years.

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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:33 am

I imagine the cost of converting, re-fitting and operating a 742 that has been sitting in the sand for almost 10 years are much higher then getting an almost new 74F, or converting some of the 762's that they have just parked.

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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:41 am

Perhaps Slawko. As Combi's they are half-converted already effectively. They remain for sale by AC and I presume in airworthiness state.

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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:15 pm

One dedicated cargo route, doesnt mean anything for Air Canada getting back in to the dedicated cargo bussiness. Its also a Wet Lease remember.
From what I heard is Air Canada doesnt have enough belly space on there aircraft for these routes, so they are having ACE fly it for them.
 
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RE: Air Canada Freight Ops

Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:45 pm

I think the reason for the wet lease is because there are no wide bodies operating out of YYC for the summer sked domestically. Alot of cargo was moved on the 2 B767s to YYZ and the B767 to YVR daily.

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